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T

Hi all, I’m new to SnuffHouse, and to snuff itself. I’ve begun using snuff because I’m trying to not dip as much, as it’s causing me to have heartburn. No, I don’t swallow the dip juice but I guess some of it creeps down my throat anyhow. I don’t want to damage my stomach - I have a health issue that requires me to take daily medications, so I need my stomach to be healthy so I can take them without any problems. (I know the irony here, lol) But now I’m reading that a throat drip is relatively normal when one snuffs. I’ve even read that some people like to let it run right down into their stomachs. Doesn’t that cause stomach problems for them, like heart burn? I would think it would be the equivalent of swallowing dip juice. Well, I got some Viking Brown, Taxi Red, and Dholakia Black. I haven’t tried the Dholakia yet, but the Viking Brown and Taxi Red produce quite a throat drip for me. So, is the throat drip a normal thing that I’ll just have to deal with? I’ve read that it depends on the snuff itself … the brand, the grind, the moisture, etc. I don’t know anything about these things. I need a snuff with a strong nicotine content so as to satiate my dip cravings (lots of nicotine in dip). What kind of strong snuff would be best to avoid the throat drip? Thanks so much! troop

S

Being a “patient” myself, I can assure you it’s not a snuff throat drip that causes heartburn. I’m snuffing for years and yes, some snuffs give a drip. The real bad thing for the heart area is smoking. And a drip doesn’t automatically mean stomach pains. It’s the perception.

H

@troop111 I personally do enjoy the backdrip (but then when I was dipping, I DID wallow the juices). However, if you’re looking for high nicotine with no perceiveable backdrip, I would recommend trying the Dholakia White.

T

My main concern is tearing a hole in my stomach from this stuff, the snuff juice going down into my stomach. I have to be able to take my meds. I don’t want to get ulcers or anything like that.

J

I suffer from acid reflux - mostly under control from medication. For what it’s worth, snuff doesn’t seem to aggravate it at all, but snus sends it completely apeshit. Based on my own experience, you should be fine with snuff.

B

I had pancreatic cancer and a whipple procedure, I have no problem with tobacco. except never getting enough. White Elephant ,Dholakia White, QWS Smokers blend, Toque Rustica,Toque Quit, American Plain Scotch,High dry toasts. All fine ,Dry, High nicotine absorption. Can’t promise you won’t get throat drip, but with a developed snuff technique you can avoid throat hits.

J

I don’t suffer from heart burn, can swallow dip juice without issues, and have a cast iron stomach, so I’m not the best person to ask… but mostly, I highly doubt that snuff backdrip causes stomach issues. If you’re worried though, just stay away from fire-cured tobacco in general, if you have a sensitive stomach… snuff included.

T

It seems like I’m already getting heart burn from the snuff drip, any advice? With things such as these, stomach issues that stem from dip and snuff, what exactly is going on? By what mechanism is this happening, that a person gets heart burn from dip/snuff? Is it due to acidity in the juice or what? I know there’s no way to really answer this next question, but I’ll ask anyway: In a general sense, would a person in my situation (getting heart burn from the dip/snuff juice) risk causing permanent damage to their stomach/esophagus if they were to continue dipping/snuffing?

F

i get terrible heartburn and reflux, but snuff and its drip dont seem to have any bearing. however, what i eat does, dip causes it, smoking makes me more prone to it, and certain types of snus (usually strong V2 like thunder) dont help either.

B

Try a shot of Bragg’s Raw Apple Cider vinegar in a glass of water ,daily for two weeks in the morning. drink a cup full of peppermint tea before bed.sprinkle ginger on your food when you eat.start using hot sauce gradually. I had acid reflux for years until i discovered Bragg’s RACV. If these simple remedies don’t work you may want to consult a medical practitioner he may put you on a 24 hr acid reducer.

T

Thanks for all your help guys I’ve read around the forums here and it seems that certain types of snuff are more prone to throat drips than others.

However, if you’re looking for high nicotine with no perceiveable backdrip, I would recommend trying the Dholakia White.

So how much does moistness of grind have to do with throat drips?

B

as people have said throat drip doesn’t cause problems. Nicotine can cause stomach upset if there is too much in the system. Not sure why. Snuff for me oddly is the least effecting on my stomach after snus. Though no matter what it’s gotta be better then dip. Also Braggs raw apple cider vinegar certainly works wonders for me too.

T

Okay, so put the equivalent of a shot of Bragg’s Raw Apple Cider vinegar into a cup of water? And also, regarding my previous post, I’m very interested into what snuff qualities give less of a chance of throat drip - moisture, grain, etc. ?? And guys, thanks so much for all your help, you’re really helping this newcomer!

M

You could just stop using for a week or two, if the problem goes away it’s likely the snuff, if it doesn’t it’s not. If doing without nic is a problem get a patch or vape.

J

@troop111 I am pretty new still myself but I think that the drip depends more on you than the grind, etc. For example, several have some drip with Snuff Store’s Black Magic. I do not. I have not heard anyone on here have issues with SG Fire Dance, I don’t get back drip but it will make my nose run. So much I can take a couple of big pinches and clear it without the aid of menthol snuffs. I do see a trend in the posts, however, fine and dry seem to be what is being suggested. No one can promise these will not cause drip because everyone is different and how you snuff could also need refining. Just a lot of different things can add up to drip, too many to say this one will be less than this one.

B

A handkerchief is a simple solution ,Blow it out before it has a chance to drip. @J_S my thoughts exactly well stated

T

Great, thanks so much for you guys’ help

T

The drip is so small, don’t see it causing heartburn

T

I had pancreatic cancer and a whipple procedure,

Yikes, Well I hope you keep your health. After all snuffhouse is such a small community

B

@tboyer I am alive today ,Thanks for your concern and well wishes. I always try to be as helpful as I can before I check out permanently

S

Once I gave up cigarettes I realized fewer stomach issues- having been a moderate to heavy user of snuff for 2+ years I rarely if ever notice a drip and certainly no corresponding issues in the gut. As already recommended- blow your nose if it gets drippy and see where it goes from there.

5

The worst throat drips for me com from artisan snuffs, or more specifically coarse artisan snuffs. I can’t take fine snuffs either, so these days I stick to the main British snuff mills (particularly the Kendal mills), and tend not to have any problems. As to intestinal effects, I do get them occasionally, but don’t attribute it to throat drip. I oscillate between smoking roll ups, taking snuff, and using ecigs. I can sometimes get a bit more acid when using snuff as cigs tend to be more of an appetite suppressant than snuff, so when I move into snuff a bit more, my body responds as though more food should be due. Maybe moving from dip to snuff has similar effects? I can’t comment though as I don’t dip.

K

I thought so. I swallowed a lot of water from the nose to the stomach, especially in the menthol snuff. but my stomach did not suffer at all, although sensitive. I do not think snuff is harmful to the body. I hate cigarettes anymore. I feel it resting on my mouth when I smoke chimney.

D

I have GERD, and I have to be quite careful with what goes into my stomach. I never have a problem with snuff, but I am always careful not to let it drip down my throat. I find that, after taking a pinch, the snuff gradually ‘creeps’ backwards towards my throat over the course of a minute or two. I have learned to tell when it has reached my soft palate, and that’s when I blow it out. I’m sure I must swallow some, but this technique reduces it to a tiny amount that causes no problems.

C

I feel the back drip is when the nicotine is really working, and that is when the fun begins. Its been a solid 15 years since I got heartburn. It used to happen every night at some damn hippie festivals eating beans every night. Have you considered your diet as part of the problem? I dont know much about the subject, but feel like the back drip is much better than accidentally ingesting dip juice. Which is one of the worst things to happen using tobacco.

H

If your primary concern is heartburn, buy yourself a box of Baking Soda. Put a spoonfull in your mouth and chug it down with water. The acid and base will neutralize each other producing gas. A few healthy belches will take care of the gas. Baking soda is a pretty good tooth powder too. I use regular tooth powder (Country Gent) because it also has calcium carbonate in it (mine has fluoride too). Powder is a better abrasive for cleaning the teeth than paste is.

H

Yeah IME drip from nasal snuff is minimal if you’re sniffing it properly and while all tobacco use exacerbates GERD through nicotine’s dilation of the cardiac sphincter I have found snuff to be the least exacerbating. Oral moist snuff/snus is the worst, cigarettes are somewhere in the middle. Also yeah baking soda + water will cure heart-burn in an instant and is very relieving.

H

I don’t understand this throat drip thing. I’ve snuffed for years now and it doesn’t happen and never has. Are you sniffing too hard?

D

As a GERD sufferer, I wouldn’t recommend baking soda for heartburn. While it is true that it will temporarily neutralize the acid, the relief is only temporary, and it can often make the problem worse. It is called ‘acid rebound’ and I guess it is analagous to the nasal rebound one gets when taking menthol snuffs. Your body compensates for the neutralizing effect by producing even more acid. Baking soda is also a powerful laxative We have more advanced treatments such as proton pump inhibitors nowadays.

D

I don’t understand this throat drip thing. I’ve snuffed for years now and it doesn’t happen and never has. Are you sniffing too hard?

It’s quite a subtle effect, so it is possible that it’s been happening all along and you simply haven’t noticed. I only notice it with certain snuffs myself, but I know it is probably happening with all of them. I also find that I can’t take certain snuffs after I take a break for a while, because the drip stings/burns. Once I get used to snuffing again, the sensation lessens dramatically. It could also be a matter of technique and/or anatomy.

B

So how you doing? Still having stomach issues?

T

Hi guys, thanks for all your comments! No the heartburn went away, which is great As far as throat drips, I have to use a spit bottle as if I was dipping Trying to compensate for the huge amount of nicotine that dip gives, I find I need to use a good amount of snuff. As far as blowing it out after a few minutes, that seems like it would take the wind out of the sails. I imagine it’d be akin to stubbing out a cigarette when it’s only half-way finished, or throwing out a wad of dip after only a few minutes. I just snuff it up and let it nestle in my nose, it’ll drop down into my throat, and I spit it out. I was hoping I wouldn’t need a spit bottle since I was switching to snuff But also, my technique needs work. That’s what I’m going to research next. You guys are great!! troop