Hi all I have a question, I have an operation on Monday for 9teeth to come out :-S 4 wisdom…anyway in being put to sleep and have been told no smoking 24 hours before op as it effects oxygen levels …so does this include my lovely sniff ??? Please say no ad I am not ment to smoke for days after either

I think you have to ask your doctor that. We could say no but how much use would that be if it was completely wrong? Don’t get your health advice off web forums.

No you will be fine snuff away

Thanks guys my nerves will be up and if i get no Nicotine il be a mess :-S but at least no more abcesses …

I snused before I had mine out, after though was just snuff mouth being a little sore lol

Yea I think my mouth will be swollen and sore as hell but hopefully worth it in the long run …no pipe for me for a bit

I would take the advice that @Abraxas gave and check this with your doctor. Good luck with the operation.

smoking also dries out the sockets. That’s why I was told not to smoke after mine were pulled. I don’t think snuff would do that.

I would take the advice that @Abraxas gave and check this with your doctor. Good luck with the operation.

thanks mate, glad when its over so I can relax and snuff hopefully no sneezing as that may break clots in the gum …

smoking also dries out the sockets. That’s why I was told not to smoke after mine were pulled. I don’t think snuff would do that.

thanks Tom

Infection with smoking, they will usually give Stitches with so many extraction, And blood loss will also be a factor.You will probably just want to rest after surgery and won’t worry about nicotine. They will give codine or other pain meds. Just stay hydrated and best of luck.Snuff when you recover you will know when

Best of luck from me too:)

Yeah, good luck! Had mine out several years ago. Trust them when they say “start taking your pain meds as soon as you get them”. I got through it with little or no pain that way- Vicodin does the trick!

I think you have to ask your doctor that. We could say no but how much use would that be if it was completely wrong? Don’t get your health advice off web forums.

This is the best web forum advice ever!

Wishing you the best of luck!!! Just follow the rules as outlined by the doc. I had a tooth pulled awhile back. They said “No smoking” so I waited a few hours and thought “What do they know!” lit up a cigar thinking I would just kick back and enjoy it slow and easy, and before you know it I pulled the clot, developed a dry socket that then became infected, resulting in having to have it scraped and heavy antibiotics. Just not worth it. The ‘GOODS’ will still be waiting for you when it is time and they will be ever so much more sweet to enjoy then!!!

…good luck Oxon…9 teeth…oh god! Be brave…and stay snuffin (as you´ll recover)

yeah when I had my wisdom teeth out I didn’t need the codiene for pain, it hurt but whatever (I’am easily distracted). I ended up using the codiene primarily cause it made not smoking bareable (not a recommended method of quiting nicotine cause codiene addictions can be just as bad as any other opiate additction).

The chances of even finding a doctor that has any knowledge of snuff is slim to none. Hope all goes well on Monday.

To all the lovely replys thank you all so much, what an amazing family felt forum…well it was all done all went well and been out of it all day, still dopey but in good, pain is ok ish but starting to swell so codine tomorrow I think … I have not thought about snuff all day which is a first for me but again thank you to all that replyed. Well in fadeing again so il leave it at that thanks guys you cheered me up take care

glad to hear you are mending well; I hope that continues! Take it easy.

take care, Oxon - Like Mouse said, I hope that your recovery continues to go well. All our very best!

Your lucky the swollen is just in your face. My oral surgeon had his knee in my ribs and I think he broke one. Stupid hack doctors

the only positive thing in pulling teeth is that for snuffing you don´t need any teeth…welcome back, Oxon…

Glad it went well mate, keep up the pain meds as you will need them for the first few days, and don’t drink anything through a straw, trust me!

Ah yes… I had all 4 impacted wisdom’s pulled about 6 years ago. A bottle of Loritabs and Camel Lights made it a fun week off. 8-}

Thanks guys, Im so so today drugged up on codeine and some other funny looking tabs ??? not sure ut their good lol/// AH @skell18 i kinda found that one out this afternoon, bad bad idea i think every clot came shooting out … my poor wife running around after the kids so i guess this has it plus sides. I keep smelling different snuffs not taking it as i think if i sneeze all hell will break lose in my mouth …its almost like waiting for Christmas when your a kid, knowing what you have and not being able to open or use it … Thanks Everyone i must admit i didn’t use here much before and today i see i have been missing out so so much so will be an active daily member from now on … your all so kind and thoughtful

@Oxon your dentist should have told you, mine did but I just couldn’t drink from a cup, clot came out, blood everywhere, lots of pain! I am so glad the other 3 came through ok and that there was only one impacted tooth as I wouldn’t want to go through clots coming out again, the procedure was fine, just a local anasthetic here, hardcore! lol

Yes I read my discharge papers tonight and its un bold and underlined…and no hot drinks and that sucks …i wanted local but due to a few teeth needing gums cutting they decided instead of having to go back to the dentist they would do them in one go …i wish otherwise but still its been done now and recovery is slow but surely getting their … in thinking on planning an order tomorrow for the weekend, hell I will bath in snuff by then

@oxon Found this thread a bit late but here’s wishing you a speedy recovery !!!

Thanks periqie

It’s probably for the best to have them all done at once. One recovery period, one moment of anxiety (at least I get anxious-maybe you don’t). I’m kind of in the same boat, waiting for a course of antibiotics to finish. Hang in there!

DRY SOCKETS AREA BITCH TALK ABOUT REAL PAIN!!!

Warm salt water rinse should help. and fresh mint leaves as snus should releave the bloody breath smell. it’s possible you can’t detect it but other people will keep their distance.You can rap sliced garlic cloves in the mint leaves and this will fight any infection. Have a speedy recovery!

@basement_shaman I owe you a massive thanks !;; why you ask well I got an infection in the end and anti biotics did not shift it I had co-amoxyclav erythromycin then tried amoxycillin …all faild …so I did what you said garlic and mint and wow it went in no time ??? I crushed the garlic and wrapped in fresh mint leaves and stuffed it on the area and wow also pain went ?? Thank you so much , the dentist was amazed !!! Me also ?? How did it work ot why ??

Doctors only practice medicent. They are taught to rely on pharmaceuticals for treatment. Where as herbs have been here since day one, and civilization has made knowledge of herbs obsolete as with every other modern Convenience. Including nutrition, most problems can be solved with just eating the right things in the proper way. You don’t need doctors just knowledge and cognitive thoughts. That not to say you don’t need a another set of hands to help when your injured like tooth surgery. I blame everything on the farmer it all started with farming,money was created then everyone start to specialize in some craft. Before that every one had the knowledge to surive, they build shelters gathered herbs and hunted for meat,made their own cloths, tools and weapons. Knowledge is useless if not shared, and by giving it away I get to keep it. Most of what people don’t understand science will try to explain. Witch craft they call it because they did not possess such knowledge and killed the people that had practice that craft. Our bodies are mostly water, and to function the brain sends electical messages to organs and muscles. Frequencies can cure a malady. so sticking a copper penny in a oak tree and rubbing a cut potato on a wart and then planting it under a full moon sounds crazy. But it the copper in the penny that pick up the frequency of the vibration of the earth and send it to the wart to holts it’s growth. the body responds because of the full moons gravity effects on water. the electical quailitys in the potato is the conduit for receiving the signal, and planting the potato creates a new potato plant because you wouldn’t want to eat it. Frequencies modulators have been band for use for curing ailments because they work and would put pharmaceuticals out of business. monks use gregorian chants for healing purpose and trust that it works. Electricity is one of thing people don’t understand but it is everywhere you just trust it works and won’t go away. Glad I could be of service

Wow thanks very much for taking the time to write that, I think its amazing and very very interesting. I am myself a therapist of NLP (neuro linguistic programming) and hypnotherapy and I see clients cured in 1 session were as normal counselling takes years, but that’s the plan as then they have to stay on medication so again the pharmacy companys win its all about £££££$$$$$$ everytime sod people getting better they just want the money. im all for this sort of thing and I found the mint and garlic amazing, just like the info you put !!! thanks again a really good enjoyable read

don’t forget the patients that ask for drugs. I know taking care myself would work but don’t you have a pill for that.

quite interesting basement_shaman…i would implore you to start a thread about this as so many of us have assorted maladies for which modern medicine has no effective cure. I, for one, have hypertension, bad lower back trouble, digestive problems, etc., and would love to hear more about this more holistic approach.

I wonder has snuff medicinal uses? Besides mosquito bites?

I know I’ve used it to reduce congestion. Some snuff clogs me up, but most clear me right out.

@furious I cannot prescribe any thing without a licence to practice medicine. But I cured my blood pressure with diatomaceous earth and my digestion problems I had acid problems,I used raw apple cider vinegar.The lower back can be fixed by crawing around like an infant and losing weight. proper hydration even over hydration for short periods, like two weeks at a time will help detox along with daily exercise will improve mood and health. For a quick fix just eat nothing but apples for three days. Never drink cold water with your meals aways 1/2 hour before, eat fruits first before anything else. eat smaller portions more often rather then big meals.Only eat food that has one ingrediant like meat, fish,fruits,vegetables,nuts and hemp seeds ;fatty acids from fat are need for proper brain function omega 3/6. Artificial flavoring, colorings,preservatives and other additives are not to be consumed.

@basement_shaman Great stuff in that post, thank you! I have heard many good things about apple cider vinegar and will definitely start this. Very interesting about the hbp cure and I will look into it as I am entirely unfamiliar with diatomaceous earth. Like many I am carrying about 30-40 extra pounds and need to reduce in a big way. Hydration is very important esp. whilst on these rotten diuretics for hbp. More fruit and simple foods, i.e. those that do not contain complex carbs or sugars is a biggie. I have been reading much about the stone age diet which of course focuses on meat as the primary food source and natural fats are ok. No refined sugars or starches. Fruits ok, some veg, ok, honey, ok too. Thanks for confirming some of my research and giving me some food for thought (excuse the phrase there!).

Some people say to eat complex carbs. and to avoid the simple carbs. For example to eat whole grains: wheat, oats, barley, brown rice, and to avoid: white sugar, white flour, white rice. They say that white sugar will reduce essential minerals in the body, I think something about raising the acidity in the body. But that the sugar in fruit doesn’t really do the same thing because it’s balanced with other minerals etc.

Very interesting topic. I read basement_shaman’s posts with pleasure, I think there is so much truth in them. And so much wisdom.

It seems that the refinement and processing is what’s to blame here, and the fact that so many complex carbohydrates break down in the body to glycogen or another sugar which is harmful. The main argument of the Stone Age diet folks is that the human body from an evolutionary perspective is ill equipped to process and break down foods created by modern industrial processes. When we put all these convenience foods in our bodies, the end result is inflammation and other maladies as we can’t effectively process them.

@basement_shaman wouldn’t have anything for IBS would you? I am plagued with it in the mornings, the cramps are agony and the “release” is not only embarrassing but annoying as I spend more in toilet paper than petrol!!

@Skell18 I will PM You

Skell18 often from people I’ve known stress is so big on this. I’ve heard of people with the same problem and got rid of things like high paying jobs to fucking relax to deal and found things getting much better. Not saying it will work for you but… I’ve heard of worse cases.

Stress can be and is a MAJOR culprit on so many of our chronic problems. That is part of the blessing of good tobacco products (note: I said good products which cigarettes as a general group are not). There is nothing so relaxing as being able to sit down with a good pipe or cigar and chill with good friends, be they animate or not. And in between - or during - a snoot of good snuff is a winner as well!!

@basement_shaman , I don’t want to be cheaky, but could you copy me into that pm? I suffer from the same as @Skell18 and I’ve tried a lot of different things with various levels of success. At the moment I am quite harshly controlling my diet which seems to be working quite well, but if there is anything you could suggest I’d love to know?

@bob I am sure stress is a huge part of it, I don’t get it at the weekends or when on Holiday! Only happens in the mornings too.

Again this entire subject is more than thread worthy!! Deserves to be in book format, IMHO.

thoughts so. Not sure if stress causes but it’s definatily a huge trigger.

@bob I know for sure it triggers it, lol

Every one kick back and lite up a big bowl of your favorite pipe leaf and chillax #:-S

relaxation saves lives and butts.

@Skell18 try eliminating all dairy from your diet. Try it for two weeks (very strictly) if it works, you have the solution, and may want to make it permanent.

I’m on day 4 of nothing but fruits and veggies run through my juicer. The first two days I was listless, yesterday was hell, but today I feel great. It’s amazing how much water can be retained, and how much the colon can hold onto. I’ll stop being gross. My buddy has been nagging at me to do this for a while, and they I watch ‘Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead’. It was like ‘Supersize Me’ in reverse. My doc is happy about it too. 13.5 pounds lost as of this morning. I’ve had more fruits and veggies in the last 4 days than I have had in 6 months. Burger lettuce and fries apparently don’t count.

Weird al I’m fat for your entertainment http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player\\_detailpage&v=t2mU6USTBRE

I’m just looking for more fatty, nastier creams and cheeses, unpasteurized of course, which has never been easier here thanks to CAP.