Ok, I live in St. joseph Mo which is not all that far from Weston Mo where they have Tobacco barns, yes the stuff grows in fields down here, especially around Weston and I believe north of here as well. I imagine that you would have to know a bit about fermentation of tobacco, and if that is the case, well I started a dumb discussion. BUT…if you can put some tobacco in a blender and walk off and leave it for a few minutes and let it turn to dust pretty much, then…wouldn’t that be snuff? I have not tried, but it is possible they would sell some to you, then again, they may want you to buy a big amt. I myself have some "Twist’ tobacco and that stuff is hot as a firecracker. By that I mean it is POTENT and burns your mouth, I can only imagine what that stuff would do to your nostrils and nasal passages. What they grow around here is “Burley” which is pipe tobacco, maybe used for other things for all I know. I guess I should leave the making of it to those who know HOW to make it. The video of the Wilsons on Sharrow mill making snuff is pretty neat. I think it is on Youtube. take care.

Do a search, there are several threads on the topic ranging from making it from various other types of tobacco products to growing your own. Ken

Hey, greybeard There’s been quite a bit of talk about making snuff here. Just see the search: making snuff for example. The first snuff I ever tried was my own make. Ground some Old Dublin pipe tobacco. It was ok then, but now I much prefer the readymades.

Curious, if you never had tried snuff before, then made it yourself, how would you know how spot on you are? I just find that interesting, don’t read into it as criticism please. I seem to get that a lot. Ken

_“Curious, if you never had tried snuff before, then made it yourself, how would you know how spot on you are?”_Well, I didn’t. I just followed the instructions I read on a pipe news group and tried the result, and was quite pleased with it. Later, when I ordered some real snuffs I could tell the difference in quality and therefore scrapped my own production line. It was interesting though.

Just saying you are braver than I. I keep meaning to grow some plants and try it, at least I have a basis of comparison, without one I would be gun shy. Ken

The reason I wondered about it is I have some firecured Twist and I saw that they made snuff using “ropes” which look alot like twist, but of course it has been fermented and aged by folks who actually know what the hell they are doing. Again, I shall buy ready made, and be happy with that. Although I think my homemade beer beats storebought any day of the week. Cheaper too.Always nice to know these things, I wondered about making it, now I know better…thanks for the posts

Those twists would make great snuff!

I’ll just close this thread as it got to no place.

@snuffgrinder: What about the whole ‘curing process’? Not needed? Last yr I grew a bunch of nice plants but the curing process, old refrigerator/humidifier/time/ etc…, just wasn’t feasible for me at the time. Your post indicates this is not necessarily needed? Tom

Tom, all, I am also a humble hobbiest grower of tobacco, and have learned first hand that a proper cure is the true “Art” of the leaf! It is a weed and grows well just about anywhere, I live in Maryland, and have had a fascination with the curing of tobacco since I saw my first curing barn! I have spent hours talking with the farmers and to a man they distinctly said it was all about the curing, that is why the leaf would undergo bid inspection and sold by batches. The purchasing agent was looking for just the right cure in the leaf for his intended user and blend. And the process of placing cured tobacco in a hogs head and storing was the final act that really allowed the tobacco to sweat and develop. Maryland tobacco was a premium tobacco and was air cured from rafters. I have seen pictures of hogs heads shipped over seas by boat, and the tobacco is dark and rich at the time it is split open, no substitute for that. Watch one of the Wilsons factory videos and see what the rounds look like when they first split them at the factory, heavenly! There are places here in the region where there are half a million pounds of hogs heads just sitting around for months. We unfortunately have had a severe drought here, just devastating, but I was able to place a mesh bag over all my Rustica plants and let the leaves cure on the plant in the yard. They look perfect that way!

I emailed the Weston Tobacco barn in Weston MO. this past weekend to enquire about getting some of the burley they sell there. I am sure that they have quite a bit of it that is, well, floor debris and for my needs might work fine. I am starting to get the idea that in the whole situation it is so much nicer to buy it ready made, IE…Fribourg and Treyer makes several that I am DYING to try, Macouba, and Morocco, both sound really nice to me. I want to get some of the Poschl SF Sudfrucht, and some 5 photo Himalay and super himalaya as well. even with me snuffing all day long, I figure that the most I actually ‘snuff’ all day is perhaps a gm or so. I cateloged what I have on hand now, and DAMN, I have I think close to 450gms to 650gm. I think I have enough to last a bit. I do tend to horde stuff sometimes.

Nice bibs, Greybeard! I wear them everyday for work.

Keep growing that Burley, i love me some Prince Albert. As far as making my own, my only attempt was w/Mac Barren Honey and Chocolate(pipe tobacco). I toasted it in a pan over med heat untill it began to smoke, removed from the pan directly, and ground it in w/a morter and pestile. It was very similar to Dholakia Swiss Chocolate.

Actually that is not me, I am better looking you must agree…and more humble too. I have never tried growing tobacco, but they say it takes the same sun etc as growing tomatoes. I did however make some snuff the old fashioned way today. I keep hearing about folks using a rasp and a ‘carrotte’ of tobacco and making snuff that way. I had some ‘mummified’ dry as a bone Stoker fire cured natural twist chewing tobacco that I bitched about paying 8 bucks for. I thought, well I have this small metal rasp, why not give it a shot, came out really course. So I put it in a shot glass and being inventive used one of those wooden pegs like you see made into coat racks. It worked out nicely What I ended up with was this dark as hell snuff that still was courser than garrett or other snuffs, but it is about as fine as I can make it without a mortar and pestle. Once upon a time I had one, but who knows where it is now. Now for how it was. I like it alot, got a big hit of nicotine and it smells grand. If that is what ‘high toast’ snuff is like, I would love it. I am going to get more of it thru the dealer that had this twist. I called Stoker and alas they are now defunct. I did a lot of business with them for cigarette tobacco and chewing tobacco etc. It is a shame that they are no more. By the way, I got my ebay snuff bottles today, they are really nice.

I picked up two mortor and pestle’s from the local food co-op for $10 and $15 bucks. Next spring I want to get with some of the Hmong employee’s I know and ask to grow a couple of Thuoc Lao plants myself as I asked them too late this year. I have a very colorful garden I call edible landscaping as I grow exotic veggies, I would love to have several different tobacco’s in there too. Unfortionatly the tobacco shed on my one hunting lease was recently torn down, I’ll have to research how to build a small one, or convert my ice-house into one in the summer. I’m also going to check out the whole pig head idea as we have a large number of pig farms in the area. Any ideas on what kinds of tobacco to obtain for snuff? It has to be compatable with Wisconsin, but we used to grow a lot of tobacco that was used in chew. I’ve had success with grinding my Thuoc Lao from Toque almost as fine a Dholakia White, and recently added tobacco from a “Acid” cigar, pretty good. I’d like to come up with something original so any suggestions would be awesome.

I made one, not sure I shared it here before…garrettes sweet snuff as a base, then I threw it into an old copenhagen container with some wintergreen breath mints. been about a month or so…STRONG AS HELL, no kidding. I mixed a small amount, (BIG pinch of each, less than a gm total TOQUE menthol and garrette sweet wintergreen mix…BOY oh BOY will this stuff open your sinuses…WHEH…not too shabby. BUt not one of my favorites. Gonna try different mixes with the garretts sweet my local grocery ordered for me. I have some Frontier herbs…Sasasfras root bark that I am gonna mix with a can of garrettes sweet. Probably with some gauze or some cloth. It is ole stuff, maybe older than 3 yrs old. But if I can rejuvinate it, then I will add the sweet snuff an we can see if it was worth any effort at all.

Hoes the typin in paragraphs doin? Come on, im an old man…

I have decided to keep trying to make my own, kind of a nice lil side hobby I thought My local area produces Burley tobacco and about 30 min away in Weston Missouri I found a tobacco warehouse willing to sell me smaller amounts for my use. So, with that in mind I am going to get a nice mortar and pestle and try my hand at making snuff. I found a really superb looking one at Snuff Gear online. It has a nice textured interior that should make the grinding process go more quickly. As far as the ingredients, I am going to make SMALL amt batches, of lets say 10gms per and keep really good notes. My ingredients I will start off simply as Lemon rinds, Orange rinds, Grapefruit rinds, spices such as cinnamon, ginger, nutmeg, clove, whiskey rum and brandy, and I think I shall purchase at some point some essential oils, but have not decided what ones to get, any suggestions will be welcome. Thanks steve aka graybeard

That mortar and pestle should be good for a rough grind. But you might want to get a ceramic one for a finer grind.

I have never tried it myself, but I have been told that Pipe tobacco is perfect for it.

I made some beautiful snuff today, using my new burr grinder and pipe tobacco. First one is Black Ambrosia, a sweet but strong black tobacco. The aroma stays a long time and the nic hit is high and long lasting. Very good tobacco taste too. The grinder is easy to use with no mess. I’m very happy with the results.

Pieter, you mentioned using a ‘grinder’, is that one of the round kinda flat devices that have the ‘gears’ or whatever inside? I hate to be so vague as to what I mean, but I saw these things on ‘snuff gear’ website where I saw the ‘suribachi’ mortar and pestle. Someone here mentioned the rough grind from that style of mortar/pestle set up. I wondered about that. SInce I grew up in the midwest, I am used to the finer, almost chalklike garrettes and such. Not a big fan of the courser styles. I do adore the english snuff’s , although I have not yet tried the windmill snuff’s I imagine those to be excellent, everyone seems to rave about them. I may get a grinder instead. That way I will have a small batch to experiment on. A note here, I used two cans of W.E. Garrett sweet snuff to make a batch of my fall pumpkin pie spice blend. Now actually it is fairly nice, but two tins was a bit of an overkill. It will take me a yr perhaps to use it all. My best effort thus far has been the easiest to make, jamaica me crazy whole coffee beans, and garrett sweet snuff. Love it dearly. I keep in in a nice stoneware bottle with big cork. I keep adding garrett to it and it works great, my everyday snuff. I have a few that I made with lots of other stuff, but sadly my notes on what was in it are now lost. A word to those of you who like me have AD&D, dont space out the important stuff like that! thanks again for the tip on the grinder! Here is a link on snuff gear for the essential oils in case that is useful, http://snuffgear.com/index.php?main\\_page=index&cPath=22

@greybeard19, I use an electric Krups burr coffee grinder. The gadget which you are refering to, is a toy. No good at all unless you just want to play around.

Before buying snuff online I made heaps of homemade snuff with rolling, pipe and cigar tobacco as a base, and spices, dried herbs, flowers and citric peels, tea, essential oils, shisha tobacco and an amazing chocolate soap (of course it didn’t touch the base tobacco) as flavoring, bute none of it is as good as the professionally made ones I’ve tried, specially because of the grind (I’ve used mortars, electric grinders and a pollinator to make it, but it’s either too coarse or too fine). Also, I don’t know why, but almost everything I make ends up not smelling at all when it’s in my nose. I guess I’m too bad as a snuff maker. By the way, unless you really know what you’re doing be very careful with adding ground spices directly to the tobacco, because it’ll burn way too much (specially if you add cayenne pepper, but I guess it’s not surprising).

Graybeard19, Glad to see someone grinding twists! I rave about the Cotton Boll twist, I have made some with the Stoker’s too, but I think I like the CB better. Kick ass! I have not tried flavoring it much, other than with booze flavors. The natural tobacco flavor is great alone, imho. Cheers!

Bumped up for the sake of newcomers

Samuel Gawith St. James Flake is a terrific pipe tobacco, and it grinds into a wonderful snuff. My first attempt came out a bit coarse because I haven’t yet invested in a burr grinder, but I’m enjoying it immensely nevertheless.

Gonna head into town tomorrow myself and pick up a coffee grinder, some pantyhose, and some pipe tobacco! Ooooh, so excited

You will be astounded as well as pleased. Not to mention bewildered about how the professionals actually do it…

I use a pestle and mortor , makes a very fine grain…little bit of work tho…my tobacco store gave me a box ofAcid brand Kuba Kuba , minus the cigars (they asking $150.00 for a box). its just the packing leaves…Can anyone tell me the scent that those leaves have? Will they be a decent base ?

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I have had great success with the coffee grinder and pantyhose… Gets a nice fine grind. I love it

That’s next on my agenda too. I did the mortar pestle thing with real success and am looking forward to my Acid Blondie experiment next. I’ll be at the tobacconist today… I’ll try that old unused coffee grinder and some random panty hose to see what I can develop. Sounds like fun to me!

It is fun . I sat there for a couple hours I think… Sniffing snuff and grinding it up . I uploaded a video to my YouTube if you want to check it out!

Mike I know you’ve posted your channel before but I can’t find it; would you list it again for me? Thanks. For what it’s worth, I have discovered that orange peel does not make a good orange flavoring. Anyone know what part of the orange might impart its flavor to our homemade snuff?

Perfect, thank you @snuffgrinder! That’s exactly what I will do with my current batch.

I’ve evaporated orange extract into snuff. It worked out ok.

Where does one find real extract?

The LoriAnn brand of flavoring/extract oils seem to be really good ones, I’ve bought 7 types all with natural extracts in an alcohol base and the ones I have tried thus far have worked really well. They also seem to be on hand pretty much at all the grocery stores I’ve been in

I’ll have to give the Root Beer a go! So far I have tried the Lemon, Tangerine and blueberry…the small (10-15g) batches I made from each turned out great. I have been using LorAnn pretty much exclusively as my scenting medium so far. I am soon going to try experimenting with more traditional and natural methods though as I become more competent in my snuff making

I havent made any new snuff recently, I have so much built up that it will take me til sept or so to whiff it all. I do believe that I will be ordering the "banana bomb’ sf sudfrucht by Poschl , comes in big 100gm batches for a cheap amt. Gonna keep it in a glass container. Also, gonna get some F and t patchouli, and some macouber and morroco too. gotta have some good stuff about. I am sure I have posted it before, but a place for good spices and such is in NORWAY IOWA, applied for a job there once yrs ago, south of Cedar rapids and north of the amana colonies where I lived. FRONTEIR HERBS…NICE WEBSITE…good stuff. You can buy spices in bulk. If you have a HY VEE store nearby they carry the stuff and will get you whatever you want and save you shipping!

Hey that’s great, I live in Des Moines and we have HyVee all over the place! I’ll check Frontier Herbs website too, this is a fantastic idea, thanks!

ddavelarsen Let me know if you come across any Grand Wormwood (Artemisia absinthium) that is unaltered and what it costs

I would totally snuff wormwood! I have found now all root “herbs” attractive to snuff. Mentioning “herbs” there are some great flowers out there to snuff. Did I say that “herb” is great in a snuff. I think I have a list compiled somewhere in this forum.