So the other day I paid the overpriced cover charge to enter a bar in Manhattan, New York City. Got my sticker to show I’m allowed into the bar and paid the cover charge and all. I had two expensive way-overpriced drinks. Having two drinks in me I guess I didn’t feel afraid to use snuff. I walked outside and took some pinches of snuff and even offered it to some smokers outside who liked it and thanked me for it. But anyway the security in the front came out to me while I was outside. Tore my sticker off my shirt, told me I need to leave right away. I was like um, why? I showed him it was just tobacco. “The owner wants you out now”. Well I said, may I ask why? What is the accusation against me? Nope, they won’t give me an answer. Anyway I ended up just apologizing and kinda making peace with the security detail. Just explained that it’s tobacco, I was not snorting cocaine, I am not a drug user or anything. But the bar owner was a complete asshole, came out and told me why the fuck are you still here, called the cops on me twice. He came out first when I was kicked out and then again when I was just apologizing and explaining to the security guard for everything, both times the owner was a complete prick, said “You need to leave” and called the cops on me each time. I had come back to apologize to the security guard but also because I had friends in the bar and wanted to ask if they could come out and talk out to me. But of course I never got to speak to them. I tried to just explain things to the asshole bar owner, clarify that I am not snorting coke or anything, but he wouldn’t stop for 30 seconds to listen to a word I said. I tapped him on the shoulder to try to get his attention and he was like “Don’t touch me!” as if I were diseased or something. Whatever, fuck him, won’t be back to that bar again. Regret paying the cover charge and paying for drinks at that damn place, they should have refunded the money I wasted there. Never been kicked out of a bar before. The first cops they called were actually kinda decent, I chatted with them and explained everything, I told them it’s tobacco, it’s a legal substance, I even sniffed some snuff in front of them. They said yeah they had no problem with it, it was just the bar owner called and wanted me out and all that. The second time I had a REAL bitch of a cop. She said the bar owner wants you away from here right now, I started walking away from the bar down the sidewalk, she said you need to start moving faster, or “do I need to put my hands on you?” I’m like WTF, no you don’t need to put your hands on me, I’m freaking moving. We were halfway down the block on the sidewalk, I said alright is this far enough, this is a public sidewalk, she said no “the bar owner wants you far away from his establishment”. Hmm, well he doesn’t own the freakin’ public sidewalk halfway down the block but whatever I kept walking. I told this cop I just wanted to speak to my friends in there. I asked if she would at least ask about my friends for me, she told me yes. Of course she never did, she never returned. So that was just an all-around nightmare night. And that was my snuff story from this weekend. Ugh.
Sounds like quite a fun evening!
Sorry to hear about your experience, I am afraid that it is a fact of life that some people are extremely stupid and also arrogant in believing that they are right and being unwilling to enter into any discussion to the contrary. Clearly a bar to be avoided.
Sorry about your crappy experience. New York City liberals want to become the capitol of the Nanny States.
Call your lawyer and get a letter sent. I would.
Your “friends” don’t appear to have been to concerned. Must have been having a great time. Are you banned from pavements and have to walk in the gutter or is it just an exclusion zone? New friends and nicer place required. Good luck. Don’t take it to personally, it’s probably the owner has to pay off the cops or mob and gets a cut from the drug dealers and you might have been interfering just by merely looking like you were taking something were they all weren’t getting a cut of the action? Maybe a drug dealer complained?
What’s the bar?
There’s always a chance when snuffing in a bar people will get the wrong idea. When I last got asked what I was up to by a barman I produced my tin of O&G and had him snuffing like a good un; him and his mate.
was at my local a few years ago and this crazy lady at the end of the bar called the cops, said we were sniffing heroin, the cop came in talked to the lady then to us, he wound up doing a few bumps. the crazy lady went ballistic. my experience was quite amusing
once at a bar the bartender claimed I was trying to pass counterfeit money and told me they where going to call cops . I said to them call the cops .cops showed up had me handcuffed outside asked me where I got the money from I told them some Japanese bloke . they didn’t believe me then Japanese bloke showed up ( I was ordering drinks for him because he couldn’t speak English ) long story short cops found out money was real and let me go . I was just trying to prove a point as I didn’t want to be known as someone who passed counterfeit money .
I would have waited for the cops to come, appraised them of the situation and then have requested that the COPS get an explaination from the owner.This sounds like something that the ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union) would love to sink their teeth into! Granted, they can sometimes be a pain, but they serve a definate purpose!
Next time use violence. It seems to be the only thing ignorant people undersrand.
name of bar. As I don’t want to put any money in the owners pocket.
and then we can figure out what other establishments he owns and not to say a good word about.
Also the prick deserves some bad reviews.
@bob is on the money here; bad on-line reviews can really hit businesses in the pocket. Tripadvisor is responsible for many a subtle choice of venue. Ignorant people = Fight the power. I reckon @I_snuff_therefore___ is probably right here too; smells of corruption to me. I find it particularly odd as here in the UK New York is painted and being very liberal and cosmopolitan, still I suppose that you do get hapless jokers everywhere.
If this kind of events become frequent, I suggest the affected members to start some threads of “Snuff-friendly/unfriendly” places sorted by country, for instance. Just a suggestion. So we could prevent unpleasant situations to other snuff users
i wouldnt mind some snuff unfriendly locations to target 
@Firestarter0 Yes, I guess what you are thinking… I was thinking the same, but tried not to be obvious 
(The same information doubles as meeting points for snuff activism) \m/
Your “friends” don’t appear to have been to concerned. Must have been having a great time. Are you banned from pavements and have to walk in the gutter or is it just an exclusion zone? New friends and nicer place required. Good luck. Don’t take it to personally, it’s probably the owner has to pay off the cops or mob and gets a cut from the drug dealers and you might have been interfering just by merely looking like you were taking something were they all weren’t getting a cut of the action? Maybe a drug dealer complained?
Yes, I am sure they were having a great time, which is what made it worse with me feeling like I was bothering them with my apparent ‘issues’. Apparently some of the bar patrons were “freaking out” about what I was doing. Apparently asking me what I was doing would have been too much for the bar owner. As I explained on numerous occasions, it was tobacco, which is still a legal substance here in New York. But as for my “friends”, well they were kinda new friends I had only recently met, and this was our first time hanging out. I never got to really speak to them, I don’t know if they understood the concept of snuff or thought I was snorting coke or something, I haven’t spoken to them since. They had no idea what snuff was before that. One of them was a smoker and I had tried to convince him to try it but he refused. Some other random people at the bar tried it and thanked me for it. But evidently this got some busybodies at the bar alerting the bar owner that there were some kinda drugs going around and the complete asshole who was the bar owner had me forcefully escorted off the property. The bitch cop forcing me to walk basically five or six city blocks down the road on a PUBLIC SIDEWALK because the bar owner didn’t want me anywhere near his business seemed ridiculous, but whatever, you can’t fight cops, she wanted to put her “hands on me”, I’m lucky I didn’t get arrested for trespassing. I’m not a lawyer, I don’t know what the law is on this issue. But whatever, now I’ve got my pocket Constitution and my ACLU membership card to carry around with me at all times. Of course citing Constitutional rights and civil liberties is just bound to piss cops off more, but at this point I hate those costumed idiots.