Gawith Hoggarth - end your tap-boxes!!!!!!

GH - if you peruse this site, then listen to me. Get rid of your stupid annoying sneeze boxes. Your snuffs are really nice in the 25g tubs, but in those tap boxes I shall never buy them. Ever. The difference is huge. Your snuffs are lovely in the 25g tubs, they’re shite in the tap boxes. You want my business? Get rid of your vile tap boxes.

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As far as I know OW, all GH snuffs are available in both tap boxes and tubs, unlike Sam Gawith snuffs.

Can you tell me where to get GH in tubs? I ordered ALL the ones at MrSnuff but that was only 19 snuffs. Don’t GH do many more varieties?

Ah ok, I may be wrong then. I just looked at my usual place (my smoking shop) and they had all flavours in both sizes. Though that wasnt many and they dont stock all the flavours. Really want to try KB scented which they dont stock. You could try contacting them directly, they will sell to individuals, I contacted them before.

Mr. Snuff has all 31 varietes (look on page 2). Also I personally reccomend Aireys of Kendal http://www.aireysofkendal.com/ They are located a 5 minute walk from the mill, so you know its fresh. They also carry drums and half-drums. If its not on the website, just write to Peter Baxter he’ll take care of you for whatever size you require. I think GH brought about the 25g tub recently in respond to our needs for an economical size but in a container that preserves freshness. I used to curse the sneeze boxes (c) Snuff Head, but now its easier just to ignore them.

Yes, Sneeze Box© and Sneeze Boxes© are the copyright of SnuffHead, LOL! I second what Xander says above, Aireys are great. When I phone Peter, I say my long lost brother, as we share the same surname.

@Xander do you actually have to be a UK resident to order for them, or is that mainly just verifying your age? Dam all these new tobacco laws! They make me all paranoid! Edited to add…I’m actually serious for once. It’s got me wondering if they ship to the US. They’ve got a huge selection and really fine prices!!

I ordered from them via email and over the phone last spring. The website was down at that time. Peter told me he ships to the US routinely, and I had no issues getting my shipment. Don’t know about laws, but that’s probably just a CYA thing on there.

Thanks bro…just being careful…don’t want to get any distributor or myself in any trouble. Big ups on the link btw…I’d never heard of em…and they have a plethora of tobacco lover’s delights!

Thanks @Xander. Dunno how I missed page 2. Helpful as always. Cheers dude.

I didn’t realize how bad tap boxes are until I received a tub of GH Kendal Brown yesterday. The stuff in my tap box was bone dry and extremely coarse, with very little flavour at all. I wanted to try it in a tub, and I’m sure glad I did–it’s an unbelievably good plain snuff when it’s moist and fresh. Pretty strong in the nicotine department too. I didn’t sense that big of a difference between the tap box English Rose and the tub of English Rose, but the difference in the Kendal Brown is amazing. I’m a tub believer now.

the tubs make such a huge difference. I really prefer them. Another thing that no complains about the sneeze boxes is that the little bitches are much harder to get a proper dose out of. I’ve spilled half onto the back of my hand before and I do not like it at all.

If you still have some crap boxes with a good amount of snuff, it’s fairly easy to transfer this into a more suitable container. The older ones i know for a fact pop apart fairly easy(just throw some paper down as not to waste any) and then it’s just a matter of putting the snuff into a container you prefer. I know this doesn’t fix the freshness problem, but at least you won’t be dumping huge amounts accidentally. Snuffhousers unite…down with crap boxes!!

Being a bulk buyer I had no idea just how bad these boxes are until I was gifted a dozen or so a while back. One after another they were cast into the bin in disgust. On writing to Bob Gregory (of Sam Gawith) I was told: “Two years ago we moved to the new plastic container as we were receiving so many complaints regarding the qualities of the tin. Rust etc. We are pleased to inform you that you are the very first to complain about the new packing…world wide.” I take pride in (apparently) being the very first person to complain about these dreadful things.

And they were pleased to inform you…lol! That’s so awesome. I hope you printed out that email and framed it!

What a smart ass reply. Don’t they realize that you are the just first one “world wide” that CARES enough to let them know. Your efforts PhillipS, are not in vain my good man. I salute you.

Not everyone is an expert, most of that world wide market of theirs don’t know the difference between good and bad, so as long as the cash rolls in the company is happy. Just another reason to buy bulk. The fact is no small brand can is any good, even the good ones - even snuff taken from an airtight FandT can will be dry quicker than snuff decanted on a daily basis because every time you take a pinch you let the bulk get unwanted contact with the air.

The full range of snuffs from Sam Gawith are available in vacuum-sealed tins. One wonders, therefore, why distributors, don’t stock them. The answer is that they are only sold in boxes of 16 tins at a cost of £30.86 per box plus vat. Simon from My Smoking Shop, for example, is reluctant to stock the range as he believes that the moisture of the snuff would cause the tins to corrode internally before he can sell them all. (That was likely with thin tins, but the stout tin should keep moist snuff good for several years.) Tap-boxes are available in smaller packs. Why then can’t SG make vacuum-sealed tins available in smaller packs too? Unless they are made to order there are obviously hundreds of 16 tin packs gathering dust at the factory - and all because of the solemn commandment from above: “Thou shall issue tins in packs of sixteen and sixteen only”, saith the management, “and our commandment hath been written in stone.” If anyone really doesn’t have anything better to read … the correspondence is listed below. ******************************************************** PhilipS - Why, when Quality Control ensures that moisture levels are perfect for snuffs, are faulty plastic samplers used so that by the time is reaches the customer it is unusable? The box is barely suitable enough to keep snuff good for a day - let alone months. 1. Take empty box and fill with water. 2. Shake box and observe water loss 3. Hold box over sink with slider facing down. 4. Squeeze box and observe the following: - water pouring out from slider under pressure - air pouring in when pressure released Every sampler I’ve tried has contained dry as dust contents. Rappee runs like sand from an hour glass leaving a residue of congealed shotgun-pellets rattling behind. Please bring back the tin - preferably the 25 gram vacuum sealed ones. ******************************************************** Bob Gregory - Sir, we have received your mail, thank you. Two years ago we moved to the new plastic container as we were receiving so many complaints regarding the qualities of the tin. Rust etc. We are pleased to inform you that you are the very first to complain about the new packing…world wide. However let me see if I can address your complaint. We do not claim that the dispenser is air tight otherwise how would the slider move to allow the snuff to exit. The large vac packed tin has never been discontinued by us and probably won’t be. Where and when did you buy the snuff and what brands did you purchase. I ask this so that we may investigate the conditions under which it is stored ie next to a heat source ?? ******************************************************** PhilipS - The boxes were purchased before Christmas from My Smoking Shop. They included all the Kendal Browns, Black Rappee, London Brown, Scotch Black, Princes Dark and Cob Dark. (Snuff purchased by the drum arrives in factory-fresh condition and is quite unlike the contents of the samplers). I’m surprised that mine was the first complaint worldwide as snuff forums have many posts expressing similar displeasure with the packaging. Bernard in Germany, who also use these boxes, arouse similar dissatisfaction. Pöschl alone escape condemnation as their snuffs are sauced with paraffin oil and don’t dry out. Water based real snuff requires better care - especially those marketed as belonging to the moist variety. In my experience the consensus of opinion is one of bringing back the traditional tin. The availability of the large vacuum-sealed 25-gram tin is of great interest. Please provide information on where they may still be purchased. The news that they have not been discontinued will be very welcome to all snuff aficionados. ******************************************************** Bob Gregory - echo answers silence. ******************************************************** PhilipS to Simon Jackson - … I haven’t heard from the manufacturers so perhaps you can tell me if we can expect their snuffs to be supplied in those excellent 25 gram vacuum sealed tins? ******************************************************** Simon Jackson - Unfortunately we already have serious issues with the volume of new lines we already have that are waiting to be photographed and listed. I can get you any vatiemt on the 25g tins you require but unfortunately you would need to buy the full outer of sixteen tins. I can get all their snuffs in the 25g tins but prefer the smaller packs as sometimes with the moisture of the snuff the tins start to corrode internally. ******************************************************** PhilipS to Bob Gregory - Where is it possible to purchase a range of your 25g vacuum-sealed tins? Only My Smoking Shop seems to stock any, but the choice is severely limited. According to Simon Jackson the full range is available. ******************************************************** Bob Gregory - Simon is correct, the full range is available. The 25g tin comes packed in boxes of 16 tins only at a cost of £30.86 per box plus vat. ******************************************************** And there we have it - a typical British impasse.

An interesting read, @PhilipS. Thanks for sharing.

Reading that makes me say “Thank god for Mr. Snuff!!!”