I have recently bought 6 different varieties of F&T snuffs, and not one of them was filled to the brim, or anywhere near it. The High Dry Toast I am trying this evening is so far below the brim my finger and thumb doesn’t reach the snuff for a pinch! I weighed the snuff which came to 20g, but it was advertised on the Snuff Store website as a 1oz (28.4g) tin! The weight of the tin + snuff came to 29g, so is the tin included? I don’t wish to sound tight, but other snuff companies fill there tins with the advertised quantities. Can anyone shed some light on this?
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No ejacerooni, I live in the UK and it arrived in 24 hours from Snuff Store (which is also in the UK). I noticed that the 25g tins from other manufacturers were noticeably heavier than the 28g F&T tins so I thought I would weigh the contents and was a bit shocked to be 8-9g short! No weight is given on the side of the F&T tins - just “medium”, but on the Snuff Store website it says they are 28.4g tins (1oz).
Your not the first person to wonder about that on this site. I have been lucky in that all the F&Ts I have gotten have been full to the top.
my tin of hdt seemed pretty full and then I droped it (it was closed) the snuff seemed to go down considerable when I opened it (I droped it flat on its bottom). Reminds me of the potatoe chip bags that say contents may have settled during shiping. Not sure if I’am on to anything. The F&T seem to be the only snuffs that settle actualy I’ve noticed my bullets seem to work the same way I think it may have something to do with the container being taller then wide which allows any amount of settling to be magnified where in a wilsons tin it would only seem a slight skim off the top. Just my theory on it.
Yes, we’ve had this discussion a few times before. Basically, F&T makes the same size tin and fills them all the same. However, not all snuffs weigh the same per volume, so a theoretical 25g jar may have more or less than 25 g of weight to it. I think Tom at Nicotine Rush measured them all by weight once and found that they varied from 18-32 grams. Essentially they are being sold by volume and not weight so that they have the same size container for all varieties. Its not suprising that your IHT was down about 8-9 grams. Since its the finest of the lot, its the most prone to settling too. Also I agree with bob that the shape of the container lends itself to settling more than a flatter one would. I don’t like their containers personally, but I like the screw on lids.
Speak to Tim about it, he will sort the problem if, in fact, there is a problem. He is a proud man and want’s to keep up his good name. Cheers Pieter
Ok, I just weighed, (again), 10 different F&T’s. The range was 34.6 grams to 45.2 grams. As Xander mentioned, the moister snuffs weighed considerably more than the dry types. Tom
Sorry Bakdoor, does that include the tin (which weighs 10g) or just the snuff. If it’s just the snuff I’ve not been very lucky. What I suspect is Wilsons are packing there F&T snuffs without compressing them. They clearly compress there own labelled snuffs because they spill out when the tin is opened. In future I will buy the Wilsons Irish Toasts because you get about 7-8g worth in a small tin (which costs 80 pence or 10.5 pence per gram), but you only get 20g in a 28g F&T tin (which costs 3 pounds or 15 pence per gram). Anyway I prefer the Wilsons Irish Toast #22 to the F&T HDT. It is not very satisfactory that Wilsons of Sharrow aren’t selling a product of consistent weight. You should get what you pay for. I am sure Trading Standards would be interested.
That’s tin & snuff. I think, if you were to take out the moisture, most if not all would weigh virtually the same. Tom
Sandy, have you tried contacting Wilson’s? Given their long history, product excellence, and, as you point out, how they pack their “own label” snuff, I’d be inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt. I’d bet they would want to know of any problem. I’ve often wondered: how come snuff containers aren’t, for the most part, safety-sealed? Especially given the nature of the times, let alone for product quality.
I never think of the weight of the snuffs I buy. Though it would irk me if it seemed suspect.
Alcyon, I think I will ask Wilsons and report back when I get a reply. I can’t understand why their own brand is packed to the brim, no matter what the style or moistness, yet the F&T tins are not.
All the F&T I’ve bought were filled to the top! Bordeaux, Seville, Morocco, Old Paris - all of them.
Just an update. I have received an e-mail from Carol and Dave at Wilsons of Sharrow who say that Frribourg and Treyer tins should be filled to the brim. Apparently they don’t fill the tins by weight, but by volume. They have kindly said they will send me a replacement High Dry Toast. So if anyone else encounters partially filled tins, just e-mail them and state where you purchased it from. Hope this helps.
They may fill them to the brim during manufacture, but I think that some settling during shipment would occur.
Thanks for the update Sandy; I believe that’s what might be called a good news story! However their tins are loaded, by machine or hand, one could figure on a little hiccup once in a while, no?
cstokes4, yes they said there might be some settling, but they tin should be still close to the brim. I think the High Dry Toast sample I received must have been under-filled. A glitch during filling I suppose. They were very helpful. They said that the weights will vary depending on the style of snuff, with the moistest snuffs being heaviest.