just out of interest how people here are members of the freemasons ? Its on topic kinda lol
I’d call this OT, but I have had some interest in the OTO, GD, and AMORC.
Not a member of any organization although the histories of all the above hold a fascination. What do you see as a relationship between snuff and Freemasonry?
My cousin is a freemason and yes, he does believe in a supreme being, it’s all a bit strange I recon. But I’m an atheist so what do I care, what was it Ben Franklin said “Lighthouses are more helpful than churches” @davec32 I’m not taking a pop at you Dave 
@OTD: Clearly snuff is an ancient masonic conspiracy to get Europeans addicted to tobacco, so that they’d move on to more dangerous and addictive forms of the habit. Naturally, they did this to get revenge for our mistreatment of the Native American freemasons. More on topic, there was a freemason meeting house down the way from my school. They didn’t seem to do much aside from hold spaghetti dinners, though.
sorry it was of topic i changed the wording but obviously my phone messed up while saving lol it was ment to say … I wonder as it dates back so far what snuff or snuffs they used back then as its a gentlemans club i just have a picture in my head of it also recent documentrys on uk tv about it all . I think the illuminate are slightly different in that they controll everything
lol shikitohno, you wouldn’t need to refine that shtick much further from where it is now and you could develop a rabid conspiracy-nut following (-;
Freemason’s I would never get associated with the very nasty idiots.
@Tom I was a past member of AMORC, just couldn’t afford the renewel fees. Its very interesting stuff, but very expensive to be a part of. They were looking at £56 per quarter I couldn’t afford that though I would like to. Stefan
No but my grandfather was one though I don’t think he ever did snuff. My favorite all time tobacco shop (which carried snuff when it still exsisted) was owned by a mason. I love their symbolism too. And I had lots of fun one night annoying a number of east coast oto memebers silly guys they where.
I was invited to join the Masons but declined due to time and money constraints. I’m not aware of any specific snuff connections with Free Masons aside from the tone of 18th century auras and snuff being more widely used socially at that time. I will say this though, when my youngest son had to be examined for a major health issue, the local Scottish Rites hospital payed for the entire procedure. It didn’t cost me a single penny. Any organization that puts it’s money where it’s mouth is and helps out the local populace can’t be all that bad. They may be a bunch of fez wearing, rich, old men getting drunk and riding go-carts in parades, but they’re helping people and I can’t say anything bad about that.
My grandfather and father were freemasons. The masonic lodge my grandfather was a member of did a lot of good for the community in Pembrokeshire (Wales), but for some reason the Liverpool Masonic Lodge my father was a member of were a nasty bunch and when my father tried to leave, things got very unpleasant apparently. I have no urge to join, especially when there are less formal charitable organisations around to join.
As everyone knows, masonry is very common in the police. I was invited to join as a young cop and did so - not peer group pressure; I just liked and respected the person that asked me. I was in a couple of years but basically it became a bit of a chore going to meetings and I resigned my membership. My experiences were very mundane - it was nothing more than a gentleman’s dining club wit a bit of ceremony involved. I never saw or found anything even remotely sinister and I have to laugh when I compare the conspiracy theories with my time as a freemason. They certainly don’t like people to leave because it’s quite an involved process joining and it reflects on the judgement (they feel) of the member who introduces you, but I doubt they made any plans to murder me or cut my tongue out. Now I’m neither for or against them; I look on them in much the same way as my local golf club or rotary members.
@snuffgrinder I like the one on the lower left, brass perhaps?
I think that one’s horn.
I relate to the time slipping by. I started out as a Patrol Officer then went into undercover narcotics for a year. I was very disillusioned by my experience as an investigator. After being promoted to Sgt. I worked the streets for a bit then went back inside as the Training Coordinator. I spent the last few years managing the jail. I loved the job but found the politics overwhelming. I took an early retirement to switch careers but my wife revealed an affair immediately afterwards then cleaned out the savings and maxed all of the credit cards before blind-siding me with a divorce. So now I sit and collect my retirement pay and buy snuff when I can afford it. But I always get a laugh thinking about that poor guy scrambling to join the Masons thinking it would get him hired. That same guy got into trouble once and I had to write him up with a written reprimand. I called him into the office and told him I had great news. “You’re getting written up with a reprimand.”, I told him. “What’s so great about that?”, he asked. “Well, I just saved a ton of money switching to Geico on my car insurance.”, I replied. We both had a good laugh and it helped ease the tension. I see so many new faces driving around the city, they’re young and I hardly know any of them. I always told my rookies to remember two things: 1) Always hold a traffic flare sideways or it will fry your hand. 2) Never walk across the grass at night in an apartment complex, you’ll almost always step in dog shit. Oh well, take care. Spyro ’ ’
brilliant post Spyro. Sorry bout the wife. any mason I’ve hired was NOT free. never noticed if they snuffed.
Oops. That was meant as a whisper. Oh well, nothing really private about it, enjoy the post.
EEEEEkkk…Masons!!! Illuminati!!! NEW WORLD ORDER!!! Project Bluebeam, MJ12, Skull and Bones!!! 322!!! A million 4 person plastic coffins in a field in Georgia! FEMA!!! They are coming for you, to make you a slave and turn you into Soylent Green. I jest. I jest. Conspiracies thories were an adolescent hobby of mine. I have grown out of them mostly…however there are days I still wonder…