i packed in smoking cigarettes about 9 years ago, and ive just started using snuff. im still wary about over using snuff as it was such a pain in the arse to pack in cigarettes and i was so pleased to do so. im sure theres people on here in my position, who given up cigs and went a long time without nicotine in their system, then taken up snuff. id like to know how they feel about it, theres still a little bit of guilt on my part about using snuff. does anyone else feel this? i thought this through before i started and im generally pretty ok with it, how do people on here square it with themselves and are there any ways of approaching snuff that may be helpful? thank you in adavnce
I’m in exactly the same situation as you. I was a primarily a cigarette smoker, but also enjoyed the occasional cigar or a pinch of snuff. I haven’t had a cigarette for more than 11 years, and for several years had no tobacco at all. I took up snuff again four or five years ago (I think). I didn’t feel guilty about it - although I did ask my wife if she minded, as the reason that I had given up cigarettes was largely for her. She seemed keen to keep me alive as long as possible… I’m not sure how helpful this is, but I regard snuff as a hobby and more or less harmless eccentricity that has improved my general state of being. As far as the health question goes I suspect that snuff is reasonably benign, in that taking snuff does little actual harm - as opposed to smoking tobacco which is really very dangerous indeed. It does have some of the psychological benefits of smoking in that it provides an outlet for obsessive behaviour, and snuffboxes are wonderfully tactile. What it hasn’t done is made me more likely to smoke again. If anything it has helped in the other direction - it does some of the same psychological jobs that smoking did but is unlike the sensation of smoking. For me, an ecig would be far more dangerous. I have tried one once, and I handed it back immediately - it was simply too much like the real thing.
thank you for your feedback justin, ‘a hobby and harmless eccentricity’ is a wonderful way to look at this im enjoying it at the moment, and any cravings i am having feel a million miles away from cigarette cravings, so its good to read your insights into the psychology of it. thank you
For me it’s snuff and an ecig (which I actually don’t think is like smoking, it’s something different, something new and to be honest ultimately better) and I am still a nicotine addict although nothing like when I smoked but then I’ve never stopped snuffing and vaping long enough to find out! If I ditched the e-cig and only used snuff I’d probably suffer less craving than with the two combined for that extra nicotine high but at present I’m enjoying both, a lot and I don’t feel it’s going to affect my lifespan that much if at all. In fact might even lengthen it due to some relaxing enjoyment and I just cycled 20 miles today snuffing and vaping along the way. My legs are a bit knackered but I don’t think it is anything to do with snuff etc and my lungs are A1. I quit smoking with snuff initially because I couldn’t manage to before without any nicotine and gums, patches, nasal nicotine sprays etc didn’t work (I take my hat off to anyone who quit cold turkey) but it was the e-cig with snuff that sealed the deal and only after I managed to get the e-cig working pretty well and consistantly. I don’t think you have to worry at all about using snuff unless your usage comes to involve a large amount and then of course you will have that old nicotine devil back on your shoulder but I still don’t think it will be anything as demanding as with smoking. I’m afraid you have to decide. Nicotine in whatever form and some resultant craving depending on yourself and how heavy you use it or nothing and no craving but probably a lifetime missing it as I assume like a lot of ex smokers you must have done. Personally I think, as I suspect most on here would say, to hell with it, snuff away to your noses content! Vastly less damaging than smoking. Sorry don’t know of any way around it. Don’t think there is a way. It’s one or the other or a moderate inbetween if you can be bothered and can manage that and if you originally managed to quit I imagine that you could again if you thought it was getting to much, at least I think you would fare better than I. I can tell you this. I’m definitely happier and healthier in every way with snuff and e-cig than I was as a smoker so I guess the question only you can answer is, are you happier with snuff or without? I would guess it’s happier with.
My problem seems to be that I only smoke at work. If I don’t smoke I don’t even get a break except for at the end of my shift.
I am strongly thinking about quitting that job anyways. It’s more harmful than smoking I think.
That’s what I did, became unemlpoyed and got an e-cig lol. Definitely had to start looking at economising although my weakness now seems to be artisan snuff.
I’ve never smoked, but after looking at some of the threads here about it I’d say some of withdrawal symptoms you would have had were caused by the body craving the huge amount of chemicals in cigs, not just the nicotine alone. Snuff doesn’t have those chemicals.
I’m a former smoker and had a serious relapse a while back so I deliberately started vaping as a way of heading smoking off at the pass (it worked) and then I started taking snuff just over a month ago. Never smoked from the day I started vaping, and never vaped from the day I took snuff. In fact I recently sold my vaping gear. The craving for nicotine and snuff? Hmm. That’s a tricky one. I really enjoy taking snuff, and I find it very satisfying. However I seem to be able to go for a long time without it bothering me if I’m not taking it. For example today being a holiday in the UK I was out with my son on an Easter Egg Hunt and didn’t take a pinch till around late afternoon. I’m working tomorrow and whilst I will have a bullet in my pocket I’m fairly sure I won’t bother with a pinch till after I’ve finished. I think the reason for this is probably that even though I liked smoking and vaping, and it became an evening ritual, I wasn’t seriously addicted to nicotine like I would’ve been when I was a full-time smoker many years ago. I also can’t believe how cheap snuff is compared to smoking. The best part of nine quid for a packet of decent quality fags here (that’s about $15 for our American cousins) versus just a couple of quid for a tin of snuff that could last weeks.
I am genuinely surprised you gave up vaping but well done if that’s what you preferred. I sort of wish I wanted to but no way. It would be like losing an arm or somthing now I think. I just love some of these e-juices and for me it seems to enhance my snuff enjoyment. I think I snuff a lot more than yourself, basically regularly from first thing in the morning in bed to last thing at night back in bed. Same with vaping. I like this kind of constant nicotine/cafeine high (I’ve even now got a romote control power socket adapter for my kettle, serioulsy and it’s great) which actually I never had when I smoked! Seems like you didn’t have that? What seems to have happened to me is I’ve gone off alchohol? maybe because of all this cycling I’m doing these days, I’ve also found I’m craving healthier food and I do seem to be getting fitter. So I’m happy with the balance of all that.
I have never stopped craving alcohol! Remember I was not a serious smoker, I smoked on a very infrequent basis for quite a few years then I relapsed due to quite a stressful period. I could go for weeks without smoking anything at all. Months even. It was getting to the stage before Christmas that I was smoking every evening, usually with a drink, and I knew that unless I did something to break the habit I was going to keep doing it. Hence the vaping. I didn’t actually, really, like vaping that much. Even though it stopped me smoking I found it dehydrated me, and I have a feeling it may have given me tinnitus. I have seen that reported as a side effect. There is something profoundly different about taking stuff, that I really like, I have yet to quite put my finger on what it is.
I hope it’s not Thunderbird you’re craving. lol or Buckfast!
No, my tastes are slightly more refined. Special Brew or Tenants Super, me.
Yucksville. I see there is a kiosk now outside the supermarket that sell 5x10ml Hangsen for £10!!! Probably get some today. They even let you trial the flavours first. Wish they had a snuff stall like that. Hope your tinitus gets sorted. Maybe the Special Brew will help!!! Could be a great flavour for a snuff???
Well if I take enough I won’t care will I? I’m really a wine or real ale man to be honest.
It’s going to be 2 years since I’ve smoked a cigarette, haven’t touched one since smoking a ego e-cig. It works, I always enjoyed being a smoker. I enjoy the e cig. But started using snuff about 4 months ago. And would kind of like to quit the e cig. But there are sometimes when I prefer not snorting snuff. I like the info on snuff history, that there are no recorded cases of cancer. And I’ve told everyone that I know I don’t believe the e cig is better in every case. This is because there are thousands of food flavors and the reactions they have after combustion are pretty much untested. Also I hike in the mountains around my house every week. There’s no way anyone could say that you are not affected by the vapor who hasn’t tried hiking up a mountain vaping one. But, is definitely better than smoking cigarettes. So, no I don’t think you should feel bad. Nicotine itself is no more harmful than caffeine… thats my opinion as well as what I read on wikipedia. You should be proud to be a non smoker. Proud to not be the person stinking up the area with pre rolled foul smelling stink bombs. Leaving a trail of burns, and ash, and cans of stank butts everywhere they go. That seems like a pretty good reason to feel good about transitioning into a new and less obnoxious habit. I’ve noticed a lot of snuffers smoke pipe tobacco… It smells better by far. But I’m not sure… if people inhale it intentionally.
After I found snuff and really enjoyed it I tried kicking the habit with it. All I found is that I smoked a bit less and consumed huge quantities of snuff. For some reason it was never a suitable alternative to smoking for me. Snus is a different story though. My wife is going to quit when my new snus order arrives and that will be fine with me. At this point I only smoke with her in the evenings anyway. I like the price of american dip better, but snus is an overall better experience, and my wife doesn’t object to it so she’ll foot the bill. Win-win.
I some times inhale my pipe @coreymillia. Not the English tobacco though. That would be like inhaling a medium cigar. I have found one person so far that preferred cigar smoke over pipe. I have found none that don’t like either and, all that hate cigs smells. No one will believe me when I tell them that this thing I am “snorting” (as most put it) is safer than smoking. When I visited my mother she said I just like to take things too far. At least my grandfather knew what it was. My sister thought it was as bad as cocaine. These stigmas we as a group have to work through is ridiculous! Everyone except for my girlfriend thinks snuffing is this horrible thing.