Had a scan through the SnuffReviews site and came across many new brands. What arrested my attention are the names some manufacturers use to entice an obvious American market: Wow! Apple Pie, Rockit Cherry Pop or FUBAR Grunt, etc. These names are very suggestive and hint at how Americans are perceived overseas. The USA might be a nation of pastiche, but not all her citizens are unsophisticated ephemeral teenagers with avoirdupois, angst and acne. Surely not. As a UK citizen I’d certainly be irritated if a foreign company marketed snuffs called Tally-ho! Jeeves Special or Tiffin Snuff. Perhaps I’m just being cantankerous?
I on the other hand would sniff such snuffs up.
And once again the stereotypes about British people are fulfilled…
All that is the result of contracting Dholakia to make snuff for the U.S. market. I was a little perturbed at the time due to the obvious red flag that would be raised by marketing towards youngsters. No way this stuff gets past the FDA now that they have a say. The FUBAR line is gimmicky too, but the snuff is pretty good, still, the name suggests little respect for the sacred herb culture. I do applaud the efforts of Dholakia and their well made snuffs, but I do not agree with some of the choices made by those who are marketing them. I think it was MR. Snuff who contracted Dholakia, or maybe Tom at nicotine rush, or maybe both of them. They were probably looking at US tobacco trends at the time. I must say I was personally offended by the sheer shallowness of these offerings.
I don’t really mind the names to be honest or the selections. I actualy like fubar as a name for a snuff. Especialy since it’s a diffrent image then the posh european image that dominates snuff (rightfully so). I still have to admit I’ve not tried the wows or temptations most of the flavors don’t apeal to me much.
Being an American, I take no offense what so ever. I, and my girlfriend, really like FUBAR, the Temptation line (or few of it I’ve tried), is really good, but the WOW isn’t quite as nice. I think some of you people need to not look so deeply into things.
I am an American and enjoy the fubar grunt. Only because a friend reccomended it. I wouldn’t of ordered it otherwise because it is a bit goofy I mean come on… Camo tin? I skipped passed the Wow! or Rockit just because of the name. They may be good snuffs I have no idea. I just think if that’s the best name they could think of for their product the snuff itself can’t be that great.
When I’m spending my hard earned money on a product I want what I perceive to be the finest I can get my hands on. When I first started snuffing it was no contest, a demure, understated tin of WoS or a product like FUBAR where the advertising spiel is telling me “it will blow your head off”? I’ve later found out that some of these garishly marketed snuffs are great, but when I was just entering into what I perceived to be a refined and noble pastime, the likes of Zuka and FUBAR (which seem to be playing up on the similarities between snuff and a certain illicit substance) came across as trashy and inferior products.
PhilipS, snuff some Prozac
I think sometimes its hard to distinguish youth culture from American culture, mainly due to the power of media and marketing. There is a huge difference though.
"And once again the stereotypes about British people are fulfilled… " Stereotyping works both ways, John. Take one example out of many: in the Hollywood/Disney films that murder history the good characters are always American while the bad are invariably RP (the accent of evil) speaking British. In general, a British actor or voiceover is almost a perquisite for the portrayal of the cunning and ruthless, whose villainy is finally thwarted by an American hero.
murder thats the nice way to put it.
“I think sometimes its hard to distinguish youth culture from American culture, mainly due to the power of media and marketing. There is a huge difference though.” We see the same ploy being used in the UK where product advertisements for breathless youth always seem to have a voiceover with an American accent. If marketers wished to associate real - as opposed to perceived - youth with a nation then Iran is the choice. It is the perception, however false, that remains.
I’am kind of sick of the worship of youth culture. It’s supposedly fresh and full of excitment. I tend to find it shallow predicatable, good awefully boring, idiotic and in just poor taste. Well when compared to more middle aged shit. Seriously if I want to find great music I don’t ask some youngster. Fuck youth it’s for idiots. Just hijacking the thread. Oh to any young person that takes this seriously don’t worry you’ll grow out of it (the youth that is).
“murder thats the nice way to put it” Couldn’t think of a better description. But even in historical fantasy (where everyone is supposed to be English/British) the heroes are American actors. The Black Shield of Falworth is good example. Here Tony Curtis utters (in heavily accented Brooklyn) the famous line - Yonda lies da cassle od my fader. Curtis beats the dastardly Brits in the end though.
Jeese Philip, is it bothering you that much ? Get over it Dude and live your life!
@ Micheltn - I think you misunderstood the intent of the post, which was being critical of the marketing approach, not critical of Americans.
I guess I do… My excuses then. I thought it was a whole UK v.s. US thing…
so…this thread ISN’T about umm…fishing? got all excited when I saw the title of the thread
@Premium Parrots That would be angling, then. But seriously, I’ve stopped getting overly offended by marketing practices. In general, the advertising industry tends to rely on strong images. Some of it is due to the “big idea” approach. “Think Mink” was a classic example. I think Fubar, or Wow! are aiming for that, name wise. Something that sticks in the brain. In the UK and the US, transposing accents in advertising is a subtle way to get listeners/viewers to shift their attention and listen to what’s being said. If everyone was speaking classic BBC English from the '40’s or slick American announcer speak in adverts, people would start ignoring them after awhile. Just my 2 cents, or disused Ha’Penny.