Pardon my presumption for initiating this thread … newbie here … but along @transistor’s “Best SP” thread, Toasts seemed appropriate … but using search did not yield said thread so I thought I would start one. The categories, to me it seems, for snuff are Scotches, SP’s, Toasts, Perfumes, Florals, Fruits and Menthols/Medicated, is this accurate? I am finding Toasts and SPs to be what I reach for most. Also, as a newbie, I value everyone’s opinion on this board - I frequent this site first and last every day and read constantly … wanted to see what those who have been snuffing longer than I have what they felt was the best toast. I just received a shipment, rounding out my toast variety … and am working through them. Currently I most enjoy Samuel Gawith’s Irish D … followed by WoS No. 22 - also, unique to me is Toque’s Lime Toast(bit of an SP-Toast) This, of course, is subject to change as my senses become more keen. So, kind snuffers - what’s your favorite toast and what sets it apart.
If you want more categories do not leave out rappees and schmalzlers and halb-schmalzlers. South African snuff (Gwayi) should be its own category as well. Others? Probably. My favorite toast by far is Wilsons od Sharrow Irish High Toast No. 22. I also enjoy most other toasts, Toque Lime Toast probably being my preffered flavored toast.
@Xander … I understand the schmalz category … what would the rappee be? EDIT: Just did a quick search within snuffhouse, found the variances … thanks …
Ones I would class as rappees are coarse or very coarse-very moist, usually black or near black in color and usually of British manufacture. Also usually there is a brining process in the making of them. Samuel Gawith is the leader in these, here are a few off the top of my head: Samuel Gawith: London Brown, Scotch Black, Black Rappee, Lavender Dark, Cob Dark, Princes Dark Wilsons of Sharrow: Brunswick, Best Dark, Princes Its possible that SG’s Kendal Browns could be in this class. As they are moister and heavier than other brands.
I really like Friborg and Trayers Irish high dry, but I have a really hard time keeping the fine stuff from hitting the back of my throat no matter how light I breathe. I think it may be because ive had my tonsils and adenoids removed.
I am also wondering, how does everyone determine differences between them? For example, I can tell a difference between WoS’ 21 and 22, haven’t opened 20 yet … 22 seems lighter, toastier … and GH’s Irish D has a bit of a sour note to it … versus SG’s Irish D … Clearly Toque’s Lime Toast is unique (love at first sniff for me) and WoS Lemon Toast is a very nice alternative if I run out of Lime Toast or Lemon Grove for that matter …
The trick is to not actually breathe. Hold your breath and sniff. Just create a vaccum in your nose but close off the back of your throat so the snuff is drawn in but not beyond the nose.
@snuffbrant well, its best not to compare the flavored ones as in the case of Toque’s they are all the Natural Toast with an added flavor. I would only compare the Natural Toast with other plain toasts. As far as Wilson’s goes, there is a huge difference betwen 20, 21, and 22. 22 is the “High” toast, meaning it is finer and drier, or all round toastier than the others. The toasts from the other companies are generally comparable to this. 22 is proabably their second best selling snuff after Best SP. 21 is rather plain simple straightforward toast. Nothing “high and dry” about it. Its’s simply “Irish Toast.” It doesn’t have the nutty and buttery tones that come with extensive toasting. 20 is called the DH toast, but those letters can be misleading. I don’t beleive they stand for dry and high, some speculate the D is for dark. 20 is essentially a toasted SP. It does not have the fine cut of the others, its a medium grind like the majority of Wilsons snuffs. It also has a strong bergamot flavoring like the SPs. The toasting in it is noticeable but not extreme. You are perceptive in your analysis of Gawith Hoggarth’s Irish D. It is certainly a high-dry toast, but it very nearly has the character of an American Scotch, as it seems to be finer and drier than the other toasts. The other toasts are variations on a theme. The F&T and SG ones all have a distinct character, that gives them a sweet or smokey or nutty character. Each one is no doubt someone’s favorite.
@Xander - great analysis - much appreciated. I agree, can’t categorize Lime, Lemon or Marmalade in with others. And the breakdown of 20,21 and 22 is welcomed … as I need to read up on them … but 22 strikes me as comparable to Natural Toast or FT’s HDT, so that makes sense. FWIW … I am in toast heaven this eve … and will push the boundaries of toast-overdose …
Toque Whiskey and Honey Toast. By far. Next is F&T HDT. Most toasts remind me of American Scotches. And being American, I can get as much scotch as I want. HOWEVER, when making W&H, Toque almost blended American Scotches and English snuff together. There’s no other snuff like it. The closest thing to it is Honey Bee and they’re still worlds apart. VERY HIGHLY recommended. SP’s and Toasts are my favorites as well.
@snuffbrant- Xander is the man to listen too! He is spot on with his explanation. You would be well served getting the #20, #21, and of course the #22. It is only three snuffs but a huge education in snuff. And if you have none, get a tin of F&T HDT.
@Whalen … absolutely concur re: Xander’s knowledge of toast … I am working on sniffing 20,21, and 22 this eve, just now with HT22 … and have had FT HDT in my nose this eve as well … both 22 and HDT are very nice. Comparing 20 - 22 side by side is teaching me a lot about the subtle differences. @transistor … have W&H on the way from Toque and looking forward to it. I’m in the US as well - and probably need to run to a smoke shop and see if they carry some American Scotches … in Ohio, Kentucky might have snuff, being a huge tobacco state. Let’s hope …
my favourite toasts are the same as transistor
WoS 22
HDT
I use more F&T HDT than any other toast.
If you consider Toques W&H to be a toast, then I’d choose that as my current favorite at the moment. Even though, to me, it seems like its not quite a true toast in the sense that its not quite as finely ground or obviously toasted in taste. It just doesn’t seem like a toast to me. Toast and Marmalade is a favorite, then wilsons #22, followed by f&t-hdt
Fribourg & Treyer High Dry Toast is HANDS DOWN the best snuff Ive ever had. And best toast.
Still to this day, Toque’s Natural Toast.
Sam Gawith’s Irish Dry Light and Wilson’s Irish High Toast in equal first place. I know it sounds snobbish, but Irish should be left unscented as per Lundy Foot, Dublin tradition. Regrettably both snuffs now lead to congestion, so daily intake is limited to just a gram or two.