As the elected spokesperson for the ISTA ,I suggest printing some medium for attraction to nasal snuff use be made available in a handy form at a reasonable cost . And possibly this could be the first fundraiser to jump start our global effort . I would like to have input for compact information[possibly a top ten list] including why use nasal snuff ,benefits , harm reduction, and short history with references to internet links if possible. And we can make these available to snuffhouse members to arm themselves with when ostrichsized with the uneducated masses. Of cost consideration printing would initially be available in english, then we can start supplying in other languages as the demand arises. Or we could just make it a free file to download and skip any cost printing on our behalf. This information should fit on card stock that can be folded to make four pages and fit in one’s breast pocket; no larger than 4.5 inches tall and 2.75" wide when folded in half. If cardstock used is 9x11 than four cards can be utilized out of one sheet.
You could just print out the “Why snuff” section from our ISTA page here at snuffhouse. Oh… Wait! We don’t have a “Why snuff” section nor a publicly viewable page here at all. Global efforts? I don’t think jump starting works on machines that are not put together yet. I suggest we make an appearance here first.
This would be deemed tobacco advertising in the UK and illegal. I believe (from a comment made by Mick) that there is some regulation in the States too, making it unlawful to make safety or harm reduction claims about tobacco products. I don’t think I could put my name to anything like this, unfortunately. I think in this day and age we can only serve those who are already using snuff, not try to win converts. Even if we could gain converts and widespread acceptance we would only be guaranteeing that snuff came from under the radar resulting in it being treated like cigarettes. Snuff is a paradox; you can use it anywhere and more smokers switching to it would undoubtedly save lives, but if more people started using it we we would eventually see it attacked like every other tobacco form. The day snuff becomes widespread is the day it starts to be harshly regulated and, as cigarettes will certainly be, eventually driven out of existence. That may not be by an outright ban - in the UK they are simply pricing cigarettes beyond most people’s reach (getting on for £10 a pack) and making it impossible to smoke anywhere. Snuff could easily be a part of this - after all e-cigarettes are now being targeted and are treated as cigarettes in airports and various places. I think it is great that you are thinking of ways to put the ISTA to work and I am not denigrating your efforts in the least (and no rant intended Joe) but this would be dangerous ground for any producer to tread and, I believe, dangerous for snuff in general. IMHO of course, with respect.
The tobacco laws in Canada are such that all tobacco must be hidden behind curtains and no advertising is allowed. Anywhere…ever. So sadly as much as I enjoy this idea and wish to share my passion with others who seem would benefit, I have to agree with @Abraxas.
I don’t agree. Its not advertising if its not a specific brand or product you are selling. And we are not selling anything other than an idea. We’re talking about something like a flyer or leaflet for information. Is the Snuff Taker’s Ephermis legal? Of course it is. Personally I would like snuff to be more widely known. Open public discussion about it would only reveal the truth of its relative harmlessness. I like the idea.
It would be 100%, definitely advertising in the UK if brands were mentioned - Joe suggests a ‘top ten’ by which I presume he means top ten brands. Simple display of a brand or logo is now classed as advertising here. Stores now have to keep their tobacco products covered it has got so draconian. I can’t speak for other countries (although if brands were mentioned I would guess it would be the same deal in a lot of places) but I suggest that if this idea is adopted some competent legal advice is taken beforehand or at the very least make sure you read the laws for the jurisdiction you are in. It won’t effect me because it’s not something I want to be involved in - I am only flagging this up because I would hate to see any of you fall foul of this modern lunacy. Regarding the STE being legal: it wouldn’t be in the UK because of the advertising and we can only get it - or any publication with tobacco advertising - as imports. The STE could not be published in the UK in it’s present format. As an idea for the US maybe Joe’s idea could fly - I don’t know - I am primarily talking about the UK. And for those who celebrate it: Happy Easter!
US law is that manufacturers can’t make health claims. I/Snuffhouse/ STE can say dang near anything, because we are not manufacturers. Although STE skirts the line because we have industry advertisers. I believe a card with a how to use snuff section and referral to SnuffHouse website for more information would be legal. It would not be advertising anything beyond the website and any health claims would/could be on the site, not the card. Sorta combine Joe and Jux’s ideas while addressing Nigel’s.
That makes sense; keep the manufacturers off the card - ie no top ten. Don’t get me wrong, Joe’s idea is good as an idea - I just think we have to make sure anything we do is watertight. What I could happily get behind is a card or whatever that advertises Snuffhouse that has the ISTA brand on it. Pretty much as Mick says it.