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“There’s nothing like tobacco; it is the passion of all decent men-a man who lives without tobacco does not deserve to live.” Moliere (French Actor, Playwright and Writer, 1622-1673)

“You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take” The Great One

I’am a memeber of the other peta. Our name says it all it means “Please eat tasty animals.”

My user name on PETA2 is eatmoremeat. I’m part of their street team lol.

PETA kept sending crap to our house; my wife mailed them a slice of salami…

my particular spiritual belief system (Noahide aka 'Children of Noah") actually includes respecting and being kind to animals as one of our fundamental 7 commandments (the literal translation to English roughly translates to “Don’t bite the flesh of living animals”) and I think I do a fair job of that (certainly I’ve got the literal translation covered as I don’t go around biting living animals). We are not required to be vegetarians (though eating kosher foods and avoiding pork would obviously be good and preferred) Nonetheless, I cant help but observe that the acronym PETA when read or spoken aloud sounds an awful lot like another, “PITA”

Isn’t that Messianic Judaism?

Some English speaking people pronounce my name PETA.

@Tom502 no, the short and not exactly accurate but simplifed answer as to who/what Noahides are would be “Gentiles who agree with the Jews” the 7 laws of Noah are really simplified Jewish law for non-jews. Now, technically I actually am Jewish by heritage as I am a 4x4 Jews ( given surname is blatantly German Yiddish and yes on the other side that includes my mother’s mother which is what Jewish law really concerns itself with as to whether you are in fact a Jew and obligated to the full faith)… but my family isn’t’ exactly forthright about this, the two grandparents who were in Auschwitz right along with everyone converted to other religions (Catholic actually) and we never practiced Judaism and there’s been a whole lot of fear instilled about this and evcen admitting I am is still pretty scary to me… so I should pick up and learn Hebrew and become a ‘re-convert’ or whatever, return to Judaism since I am well aware… but jeese, you know, learnign Hebrew, having a bar mitzvah at my age… and then there’s those rather intimidating 613 commandments vs 7 and a much easier way to go and I have some personal limitations/disabilities that kind of further hinder this whole thing so I hope under the circumstances that G-d (who seems pretty forgiving, there is a sense of things with that and the whole 'by osmosis even if you haven’t got a clue He’s happy you’re here" thing I get both in synagogue and catholic churches) will allow for one Jew to kind of slide under the wire with my rendition of “Judaism for non-Jews” (its as close as I can get, at least right now) copy pate and look here, this can give it far more proper explanation than I can: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven\_Laws\_of\_Noah http://noahide.org/ http://www.jewfaq.org/gentiles.htm

Sir Peta Claassen That does have a nice ring to it If folks who kill animals are damned, I might as well fuel up the truck and start heading towards Hell. I personally had a hand in killing 18,000 chickens/week for 22 years–or 20,592,000 birds. Someone had to do it.

I guess if you hadn’t, the chickens would be in charge by now.

@Bart, mainly just please refrain from biting the heads off the chickens while they’re still alive, etc, and you should be ‘good to go.’ (otherwise all I can add is that hopefully while they were kept alive then killed it was all done in as humane and sanitary conditions as possible, for the sakes of both the chickens and the people who eat them). People have to eat and I believe this is one of the obvious reasons animals were/are provided to us (and another is to give us a chance to see how we handle things vulnerable to us and under our control). I’m not a PETA person, just a sort of a spiritual oddball (for years I thought I had a completely made up religion I had come up with on my own and figured it was ‘new age’ or something, only to get looking at Judaism to find the majority of what I thought I had made up was already there and actualy very ‘old age’) with perhaps a bit of what I consider ‘common sense’ thrown in.

I’m mainly Hindu in my spiritual/religious ways. I am not a vegetarian, though I do agree with it from a karma angle. I do tend to think that if anything was “given” to us to eat, it would be vegetables and fruits, which grow and fall off or rot. Animals though don’t freely give up their meat, and one has to kill them forcefully. I have been vegetarian all this week though.

I cant say I am aware of a lot of plants that freely give themselves for eating either – its just a lot more of a passive-appearing event when we carve them out of the ground or steal their fruit from the ground etc… I sometimes even suspect that plants might do their own sort of screaming and resisting, etc and its just that we can’t hear them not to mention all the spikes burrs and other ‘please don’t eat me’ provisions many plants have where is a VETA to tell us not to eat them? (ever seen a cornfield being de-tassled? its a fairly violent sight) PS, out in the wild animals eat other animals (and plants) which I suppose is also evidence to me that this is how its supposed to be.

Well, I am not a vegetarian, so I can’t get on a soapbox, but I am vegetarian sympathetic. I do think if meat is all one had access to, then that’s what one has to do. I do think it different if one went and hunted and ate their own food. I do think there is a “problem” with the massive factory slaughterhouse scenario. Meat is business, and this is done for company profit, more than “food for the people”. The idea of vegetarianism, among the eastern spiritual paths, is mainly due to karma, the act of killing having a negative reaction on one, as well as the one partaking of it. Yes, plants are living too, but they are less evolved beings, than say, a cow. And we have to eat, so the ideal is to eat that which is the least negative karma producing. I do agree with this, but I have not actively been practicing this. I do find meat foods, aside from being tasty, to be so dominant in our western diet, it seems one really has to make an effort to not eat it, and laziness, or ingrained habits, in diet, is something I’ve just always had.

@WHISTLRR, I agree with you. Just think what the poor tobacco plants must endure so that we can have snuff. Roderick, you are a CRUEL man!!

Tobacco plants have a good life: they literally suck all the nutrients from soil! Must be intelligent design.

yep

Close the damn fridge!