Hey all,

The other night I was playing some video games with my bro. He decided to buy a pack of Marb 1000’s menthol and gave one to me. Later that night after I’ve been drinking pretty heavy and snuffing all night, even though I don’t want to smoke (I snuffed out the cigs) I thought it would be a great idea to spark that cigarette up. Within lighting it and taking the first drag or two, I suddenly got super ****** up. But it is weird. With snuff, I can drink all night long and enjoy my snuff instead of smoking an keep my buzz.

So I learned something about myself. I don’t like to smoke when I am drinking anymore as my body clearly rejected the smoke. I think what I am saying is, if I decide to drink all night again, don’t smoke snuff Toque!

Anyone every had that happen to them?

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Since quitting the cigs in April, I haven’t had another. I’ve drank and vaped, drank and snuffed, and drank and puffed on a pipe. I find that I get my worst nic craving when under the influence of alcohol, but I don’t want to open up the gateway to cigarettes again.

Cigarettes supply nicotine and deny oxygen. They always mess with my head when I drink. I still smoke an occasional cigarette, but I find myself enjoying smokeless tobacco lately. I still smoke a pipe or cigar a few times a week.

I am 3 years off alcohol and 1.5 off cigs, and I cannot imagine being drunk and NOT smoking a whole pack of camels! My theory is that your lung tissues being loaded with blood also are loaded with alcohol and can give you that tactile sick feeling in your chest, plus heart rate and respiration will be less efficient so your constitution gets easily overwhelmed by the CO and lack of oxygen as was mentioned. "Think before you Drink."tm. lol

I’ve been off the cigs for over a month now, but for years I couldn’t smoke anything but camel-nons or American Spirit RYO’s.  No other tobaccos could give me what I needed and I would decimate a pack of anything else.

Now that I’ve been off the smokes and focusing more on pipe tobaccos and snuff I see why cigarettes couldn’t satisfy me…I wasn’t allowing them to.  It was just a “scratch an itch” game.  I’ve smoked a pipe on and off for a decade now, and only in the last few months am I really understanding how satisfying tobacco can actually be if you take it slow and really enjoy every element of the weed.

In short, cigarettes are a complete and utter waste of time, health and money.  I couldn’t even smoke them anymore because they were making me feel queasy and giving me headaches…especially with booze and snuff.  I felt like a monkey with three kinds of crack in front of me. 

I’m in week 314, no ciggy, not one… i just puff a briar or cob and sniff the stronger snuffs when i drink

the alcohol… been a slave to ciggy most my life, no more!!

I too have had the experience of cigarettes absolutely wrecking ones self during a bout of drinking. At this point in time, I am 2 years “clean” from smoking cigarettes. In that span of time I went back and forth between pipe smoking and chewing tobacco for one year and the last year has been dedicated to strictly snuff. I have to say, for me, snuff is the cleanest method of enjoying tobacco and dosing nicotine, physically and mentally. Cigarettes are just rolled up garbage, pipe smoking still has its effects on the lungs especially for ex cigarette smokers who inhale a bit more than they think even if not intentionally, dip and chew are slightly more enjoyable to me than cigarettes but ever so carcinogenic to the mouth, and snus, well, I simply don’t believe that swallowing that juice in that copious of an amount per portion is safe and I have been equally floored or “couched” from the Snus nicotine buzz as I have been from a dip buzz (both were intentional abuse of the product simply by consuming too much steadily through the day). When you drink alcohol, much of the effect or drunken “high” is actually your perception of being dehydrated muffled by the change in brain chemistry and neuron movement. If you have ever been truly dehydrated while not under the influence you will know what I mean. Unsteady gait, impaired visiual perception/reaction times, slurred speech, and a disoriented mental state are all hallmarks of dehydration and you experience these things when you drink heavily but the other effects of alcohol cause you to neglect this physical dillema as you are distracted by those feel good chemicals. That is until the next day, when you are hung over. Obviously you can reduce this effect by either consuming less alcohol in one session or making sure to drink plenty of water throughout the drinking and before bed. All that being said, once you take steps that lessen your dependence on cigarettes the more the physically harmful effects are felt as you have essentially broken the cycle in your brain that turns off attention to these effects in order to prioritize your focus on the nicotine and about 3,999 other chemicals cigarettes deliver to you. It’s kind of like the allegory of the cave in which once you have walked outside, that cave is no longer an inviting homely place. What you experienced was the compound effect of a heightened awareness of the immediate physical harm from cigarettes while already in a compromised dehydrated physical state from being intoxicated with alcohol. Without getting all high school health education videos on you, just imagine your body a whole system and all that going on at once! That’s enough to make anybody physically ill and it is AMAZING what the brain can choose to ignore when it is addicted to something!

I used to drink and smoke a lot 10 years back. Then it was the weekends and twice in a months until 2 years back. Since two years, I used to have the occasional drink but used to smoke 4-5 cigarettes daily; sometimes when mixed with other substances, even more.

I enjoyed it for sometime, and maybe it was also the peer effect - though none of my friends smoked or drunk as much as I used to. 

Then things took a shift all of a sudden. Since more than a year back I reduced my smoking, but always used to crave for it each day- hence used to still have 2-3 a day. My drinking has reduced to being a ‘social drinker’, but I don’t see the point of it (like sir Stephen King), and so drinking is almost not there, unless I go for the once in six months LIIT. Even then I don’t like the hangover (however slight), and have now started feeling that drinking is utter useless since I never used to get so high in the first place so as to feel any euphoria or the sense like I am the most intelligent being in the world. So whats the point, right?

Since I started using snuff, it has become more of an art kind routine for me, and the cigarettes just dont happen. 

I am liking this transition, and I wish snuff is always there until my end. 

Well, carbon monoxide is a big thing with cigarettes, much less with pipes and cigars, and not at all with snuff. If you’re already under the influence of alcohol, carbon monoxide isn’t going to help.

Possibly having excess ethanol in your blood system will help your body absorb more nicotine through smoke. I have not had a drink in over 2 years and a smoke in over 1, though I do distinctly remember Nicotine and Cannabis smoke hitting me a heck of alot harder when drinking. At the time I summed it up to three things CO2 and CO poisoning, sudden drop in blood pressure, and ethanol in my blood absorbing Nicotine or THC a heck of alot more efficiently.