I age some of my pipe tobacco`s for many, many years and it gets better with age . So i am wondering does nasal snuff get better with age as well? If it does what snuff are you aging?
In my experience snuff doesnât age at all. It goes dry and stale. I believe the trouble here is that pipe tobacco is usually kept in vacuum sealed tins whereas I donât know of any snuff that is sold in a vacuum. So the air and oxygen do what they do and all you get is slow deterioration. Some snuffs do slightly better than others but thatâs the general rule.
Samuel Gawith is vacuum sealed but yeah most arenât; I think nasal snuff keeps pretty well for at least 6 months after opening as long as you donât dig your fingers in it. If you put your fingers in there I think the oils on your fingers can give it an off smell over time. Or maybe itâs just my fingers. Iâve had to throw out a couple of tins due to that and these days I avoid putting fingers in my snuff unless itâs one I like enough that I know Iâll use it up in a matter of days.
As long as it is kept in an airtight environment away from light and heat it ages well and will keep for decades and as with pipe tobacco natural snuffs age better than flavored ones.
Iâd agree with @n9inchnails here. As with cellaring pipe tobacco, snuff will improve with age provided that itâs stored well. Moisture is the enemy here in my book. I have some vintage snuffs that are decades old and absolutely fine. As @horus92 points out introducing other substances to stock tins is never a good move (ditto pinching from the tin) if youâre not planning to use it up promptly. There are some good threads on the forum relating to snuff storage that are well worth reading. Sterilised sealed jars are the best thing here if your intending to cellar snuff for extended periods. In terms of the effects; in my experience itâs very similar to pipe tobacco. the âedgesâ are removed from the blend, it sweetens up somewhat and harmonises in scent profile, casings become more subtle and refined.
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@MisterPaul @n9inchnails I agree with both of you but remember snuff mostly contains salt and/or potash and pipe tobacco doesnât to my knowledge. Snuffs with only potash (the most modern snuffs like Wilsonâs or McChrystalâs) will age well since the potash has the property of stimulating fermentation. On the contrary, snuffs with salt donât have that aging property I think because the property of salt is to stop the fermentation process. Some snuffs also have salmiak in the sauce, I donât know exactly what property or characteristic that has to the tobacco. but to @ozzyozz I would say it is not really a custom to keep a âsnuff-cellarâ like your wine collections. Some snuffs can be very good after years of storage but others get very dry. In the golden age in Holland people just always refilled their snuffboxes directly at the tobacconist.
@Salmiak - I think that your last point was probably true in in Great Britain too many years passed (sadly). Iâm not aware of any tobacconists left who sell âlooseâ snuff. I reckon that your bang-on, storage and cellaring definitely depends on the snuff at the end of the day I guess.
We should point out the difference between aging and storage. I have some very, very, very old Cafe Royale that is past its prime, but is still a marvel of the snuff makerâs craft. Itâs been stored in airtight mason jars in a dark, cool environment since arrival. Iâve shared some with folks here, so I will let them share their thoughts. If there is a high percentage of Virginias in the recipe, they can age nicely under the right conditions, just like some pipe tobaccos. I also have Rattrayâs blends going on 30 years in jars that get better with each bowl. YMMV. In this modern era of snuff and storage there is no excuse for letting fine snuff go dry. A small investment of time and a few bucks and the snuff will keep for a very long time. If you keep it in a paper bag on your dashboard all summer long you should just send it to me instead of wasting it. :)) I will dispose of it in an environmentally sound fashion and no snuff will be harmed in the process. You have my word on it. ***Is there any other kind of snuff than nasal? Lip Dip is snus, not snuff. Iâm sure someone, somewhere (probably around here on the ASS thread) has come up with an anal snuff, but I donât think Iâm interested. I like to think of it as olfactory snuff, because Iâm working on my inner snob.***
Ok, well what is the best way to keep snuff for a long time?
After a few searches, I guess this thread is as good as any to ask this ( versus a new thread ) but - Letâs look at this from another angle : Ebay often has snuffs in unopend tins / jars that have age on them - worth more as a collectible novelty, or worth a buy if it is something you cannot find / is discontinued? ( Still an aging question, but in this instance you have no control on how it has been stored over the preceding years ⌠)
@CaptShipwreck As @chefdaniel is often quoted "stored in airtight mason jars in a dark, cool environment " As with any perishable product you will want to protect snuff from its mortal enemies: extreme heat, direct sunlight and moisture. A search through the forum will reveal the same guidance, along with a plethora of other valuable information.
Superbly, if done correctly. Old Paris ages with magnificence. HDT loses pungency. KB Original gets even more sweet.
Iâve heard it ages like a fine woman. Then it asks you if itâs getting mold and if itâs container makes it look fat nag nag nag
Some women age like wine. Some women age like milk.
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I have no experience to speak of - to say it ages would infer I let it sit untouched for long periods of time âŚ
I aged like yoghurt. Rotten to begin with and gross now.
Last year I decanted a lot of snuff into clean glass jars, which were then put in a light free environment, in the most temperature stable part of the house. Today, the first two small jars I opened to fill up my snuffbox had gone mouldy. It wonât be the last of my stash that I have to throw out either. Sometimes hoarding snuff away pays off, and sometimes it doesnât. The snuff that I end up throwing away tends to be the more moist snuffs (Princes and Princes Special today). I donât tend to have such problems with the drier snuffs, although they can lose their scent over time. Iâve acquired that much snuff that whatever happens, happens, and Iâm not going to get excited about it. That includes positive or negative scent changes, as well as spoilage, clumping, mould, or anything else. However, Iâll not be adding any more moist snuff to the array unless I plan on consuming it all in a reasonably short period of time.
I believe in the case of princes, santo domingo, best dark, and others with that base from wilsons, that if itâs white flecks interspersed throughout the snuff, itâs possibly salt crystals re-forming (high salt content in that base) and not mold.
Point taken, and I have seen that before. This was a definite threadlike structure, not merely flecks of white crystal
Mould spores (and any fungi for that fact) are highly intelligent creatures. One should never underestimate their resilience and survival capacities in a vast array of environments. Many of them thrive in what is not always obvious a warm and humid environment. Other variables that are out of our control come into play when we are talking about snuff contamination. One of the seems to be a sterile atmosphere, and that is (in my experience) more important than temperature and light (excluding extremes of course).
I had both disasters and delights happen with aged snuff. 2 short examples : I just binned 3 big tins of SWS Creme de Figue infested by mould (and were kept in the fridge at 6-8 degrees Celsius for more than 6 months) but also 2 tins of SG London Brown kept at variable room temperature (20-30 degrees Celsius) for more than 2 years that have turned out to be probably the best non-artisan snuff I ever had. Delicious, salty, pungent, black moist fermented thrills.
I never decant my snuffs, except for those I buy in bulk, and then I take paranoic precautions when handling them, I do it as fast and clean as possible in sterilized glass containers and pray for divine protection hahaha.
It might have something to do with a good manufacturer seal, batch variation, or ultimately pure luck.
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Still got approximately 150 unopened tins all individually generously wrapped in cling film occupying half of a fridge. The other half is pipe tobacco. I will consider myself an extremely lucky man if a third of them will still be good when their time for consumption will come.
I have not bought any new snuff for the last 3 months and hopefully will never have to buy again.
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