Do you wait or not wait this is the question ? I have done very well In my goal of using the gods gift that is snuff to stop me from smoking ! But can I ask people out their who have gone this did you wait for the craving from not smoking then snuff or snuff before the cravings hit ??? As I’m waiting for the cravings first but does not always work as the craving is quite strong ! I have toque quit but a bit unsure how much to take as I dont want to o/d on it … Thankyou snuffhouse

I’ve never heard of ODing on snuff. Hit it hard and often before the jones.

Before you say ok well I did wonder if my timing was of. As for o/d Maybe the word o/d was the wrong word to use I ment that feeling of feeling sick head spin headache !!! I never want that again .

Id say experiment with pinch sizes until you find one that hits harder than a cig. Then do that size every hour or so. Or take just a regular pinch size every 15 mins or so. That was you constantly have a small amount of nicotine in you and the cravings wont come as much. The only time I successfully quit (for a while at least) was when I took smaller pinches every 15 mins or so and large pinches about every hour. I was taking in more nic than I was when I was smoking but at least I wasnt smoking. And of course after youve quit for a while you can always slow down the pinches if you want since the cravings wont be as intense.

Fantastic l love your reply brandasaur I’m going to follow what you said ! Thanks

Makes sence as you say it makes sure the flow of nic is constant with a big hit every hour is by far more nicotine than I’m used to so should kill the desire to smoke !!!

Snuff never helpt me to stop smoking. I just stopped. That was after thirty years, maybe I have a strong will power. (I was into cigs, cigars & pipes).

This is how the famous Prof Griffiths says you should do it: stop smoking. Take a pinch of snuff when the craving for a cigarette is urgent, then take a large pinch. Eventually the craving will be for snuff, not cigarettes. I’ve quoted that from memory but it’s pretty much how he puts it. That’s how I made the switch from being a cigarette smoker who used snuff to someone who only uses snuff. Use the snuff whenever you crave smoke, its as simple as that. I would add that if you ‘fall off the wagon’ and have a smoke, then don’t beat yourself up or apologise to anyone - it’s your body and life, no one else is owed an explanation. During my transitional phase I said that I would have a cigarette if I needed one to save my sanity and I did, several times. I may be unusual or fortunate or both, but I can now have the occasional cigarette without ever sparking the need to smoke again, and sometimes the fact is that you just feel like one. I think it is a mistake to demonise cigarettes - you just need to not smoke one 20 times a day, every day. If you need to stop completely to save your health or life then give the above method your heart and soul. If that is not the case, just relax and let snuff take the pressure off. I really do think we make too much of this - we have become terrified of something the world’s population happily did for centuries until the 1960s - all that is needed is moderation and a slight touch of willpower, if I can do it so can anyone else.

Thanks snuffster love it ! Yes If I think about it now we are constantly told how hard it will be to stop so it is and the government know this so we start sm

I tend to totally agree with you Nigel. I think using tobacco in moderation is just fine. Even food in excess is bad for the body so with tobacco

Smoking again …but if we were constantly told how easy it was to quit smoking … I think brainwashing our belief system has a lot to do with it .

Snuff as and when you like, be it every 2 minutes or once a day. You will soon find your level. Stefan

I think this highlights one of the best things about snuff and smokeless tobacco. I started snuffing about 2 years ago, shortly after quitting 19 years of cigarettes. Today, I only faintly remember the ‘cravings’ of which you speak. Today, when I want nicotine, I get nicotine. I’m never put in the uncomfotable throws of withdrawl, because I’m always able to partake. As a result, I use as much as I enjoy, no more no less, and it certainly seems like a lot less than when I was smoking cigarettes ‘every chance I got’. Good luck, @joe!

When I quit, it was a long affair since I smoked (about 3 packs a day) as I wished, as well as snuffed. As I got more into snuff use the length of time between smokes grew longer and longer. Eventually I went two weeks without a smoke and tossed the unopened pack in my lunch box away. No withdrawal at all. This method works a little differently for each person but it most certainly works, you just gotta find the groove that works for you. Good luck with quitting.

I wouldn’t know… When I quit smoking I went cold turkey (with a lot of Tic-Tacs.) Didn’t even discover snuff until 15 years later. ‘Gotta’ agree with @Gsnuff… Every time the urge came over me to light up, I’d suck on a Tic-Tac instead of sucking on a cigarette. It worked for me. I was a 2 pack a day Newport smoker. I set a deadline which I had no control over and said: “As soon as the price goes to $2/pack I will not smoke another cigarette.” You have to have a clear cut, cutoff day. Make it something that you have no control over and you can’t put it off.

I think @Brandasaur is right - If you are using snuff as nicotine replacement therapy (NRT) the typical guidelines are to use it regularly in order to preempt the cravings (before they happen). Do this for 2-3 weeks and then start reducing your snuff use every week. The recommended time span for the entire process is 2-3 months. You should ALSO keep your mouth busy since you have to address 1) the nicotine addiction (with snuff) and 2) the oral habit. Gum is popular but I always preffered Tic-Tacs like @howdydave . For the process to really work you need to transfer the addiction from cigs to snuff (or another form of NRT). Most people succeed in doing this. Getting free of the NEW addiction is a bit more work. Look at it this way - ANY way you can get off of cigs reduces your cancer risk BIG time. And better to use snuff than nic-gum, patch, lozenge, etc, in my opinion. Remember, snuff won’t make quitting easy. But it WILL suck less Also it takes money away from big pharma… but thats another thread. Good luck!

re: @snuffster: "I would add that if you ‘fall off the wagon’ and have a smoke, then don’t beat yourself up or apologise to anyone " Remember what Alfred said to Bruce Wayne in “Batman Begins”? Why do we fall sir? We fall so that we may learn to pick ourselves up. (Thought that I would score higher points on this board by quoting Alfred rather than a lot of monastic Abbots and Igumens.)

@howdydave $2 a pack??? Bloody hell, how long you been packed up smoking? Here in the UK a packet of 20 is roughly $10 a packet, if my maths is right. They are around £6+, some are cheaper but not many at least round here anyway. This is only based on observation I haven’t smoked a fag in ages, let alone bought any. I rarely smoke, I use my e-cig numerous times a day and snuff too. I go through about 3g a day on average. Stefan

It wasn’t all that long ago that cigarettes were $2.00 a pack here in the U.S. It varies state to state, but I remember being able to buy camels for around $2 a pack less than 10 years ago. They are still cheaper than in the U.K., running about 4.50 around where I live.

What really helped me quit was the combination of snus and snuff through the workday, and smoking a pipe in the evening. If you find yourself having difficulty making it work just with snuff, I would suggest getting yourself some snus to use to steady background nicotine.

Also, get used to the Indian White snuffs like Dholakia White. They definitely helped me reduce my smoking, however now im out and have gone back to smoking 15 cigs a day…

I’ll second HowdyDave and Gsnuff both… buy some gum or candy or oral tobacco. Find something to do with your smoking hand as well. Even though I wasn’t missing the nicotine from smoking, I most certainly missed doing something with my hand and mouth. The physical habit was harder to beat than switching to a new way to get nicotine.

@Walrus: a pack of 20 cost me about $1.50 when I started college, and that was 1990. When I graduated in 1995 I think they were about $3.00. Taxes were raised frequently in a short period of time to put us on par with the rest of the developed world. Now they will run from $7.00 to $10. Might be a bit cheaper in some states. Mind you, throughout my childhood my parents smoked, and for all of my childhood memory, it was only $1.00 a pack. They usually bought them by the carton (200) to save money!

Knock on wood, I’ve never had a craving for a cigarette. When I snuffed, it was not to get rid of smoking or replace it. It erupted out of curiosity and lasted due to enjoyment. Now, I’ve smelled a tin of pipe tobacco and salivated over the smell. I guess I’m equally addicted to home made bread

@Walrus1985 $2 a pack??? Bloody hell, how long you been packed up smoking? Hmmm… I guess it was 1986 or 1987. I was living in Milwaukee, Wisconsin at the time.

Thanks for the usefull replies ! GSnuff nice reply mate !!!

I don’t, unfortunately, remember what batman said having never watched a batman movie. Give me some monastic quotes.

It is such an ancient tale that it has almost become a fable, but it serves it’s purpose so well that it has become a standard response in just about every monastery… A standard question from many visitors in order to determine for themselves the purpose of a monastery is: “But what do you do in the monastery?” The standard reply for centuries has been: “Oh, we fall and we get up; we fall and we get up; we fall and we get up again.” I have heard it repeated by Prior Luke and Br. Christopher of New Skete, Igumen Sergius of St. Tikhon’s and the Abbot of St. Nektarios (I don’t recall his name.) I believe that the response was first given by St. Anthony, the founder of Christian monasticism in the deserts of Egypt in the Fourth Century.

I have just spent a week in a Carmelite friary as it happens. Very tranquil. Aylsford in Kent. I forgot to take my snuff box and had to resort to RYO tobacco from the single shop in the nearby village which made me realise how happy I was to be 99% smoke free.

I will be going to St. Tikhon’s again at the beginning of October. http://sttikhonsmonastery.org/ I’ve never been there when school was in session (there is a seminary there.) I usually go for 1 or 2 weeks at a time. The monasteries that I mentioned are all Orthodox. Now that I am not actively seeking to become a monastic anymore (2 turndowns told me that the answer was either “No” or “Not now,”) it will probably only be for 1 week stays. When you go, what do you bring as a “gift for the abbot?” I always take some brandy since it is easiest to pack for a trip on the bus. Probably should have taken this OT, eh?

I go to Throssel Hole Buddhist Monastery, near Hexham Northumberland, at least once a year, well apart from this one, I just haven’t found the time. It is one of the best experiences somebody could have to go to a monastery. It gets your head sorted and touches base with some dear held beliefs. Never been to a Christian monastery, although I have been reading the Bible a bit recently. Still think my Buddhist scriptures make more sense, but that’s just me. Would like to try it though so I have a variety of experiences. Stefan

Carmelite martyr blessed Titus Brandsma is patron of tobacconists. There is a shrine for him at Whitefriar Street Carmelite church with life-size statue including customary pipe.

To bring this thread full circle back to the OP’s question while tying it to this interesting digression on spirituality: According to fundamental Buddhist teaching, enlightenment is achieved by eliminating desire, which is the cause of suffering. So don’t wait. Take a generous pinch, eliminate your desire for nicotine, and experience snuff nirvana.