I am so disappointed in the Fubar Grunt that I received last month that I have to rant about it. Grunt is my go to, my #1 favorite snuff, has been for a long time, so I am very familiar with how it should smell. Anyway, I ordered 2 50g tubs and upon receiving, I noticed they both had a very strong ashtray aroma. I emptied both tubs into a large mason jar with the lid secured very loosely to try and air out the terrible smell. No luck…still smells of straight up snuffed-out cigarette Is it possible both of these tubs were mislabeled? Could they actually be Grunt Toasted?? Anyone else notice this?? I’m almost out of Grunt but hesitant to place a new order…

They have lost all control over Grunt in my opinion, I am a loyal Grunt user, 80% of my consumption. I secured a kilo of the original batch for myself, smartest move I ever made, damn good snuff. I have ordered from all the batches made since then (I think, hard to keep track), and it has ranged from a weird Chocolate to Ashtray. One thing it has never had is that drop dead gorgeous original flavor. I would not recommend any subsequent batch. Think of how many people have been utterly disappointed with what should be a world class snuff… Pathetic, and I blame Dholakia. I spent an afternoon hermetically sealing 50 gram batches in glass two years ago, after keeping them in a bulk batch. Good as the day i got it, so the coconut that I get must be stable and from some other source, has not turned at all. I feel your particular pain desirexe… I will be happy to leave whats left of mine to you in my will.

And it occurs to me that Mr. Snuff himself had a hand in bringing this one snuff to life, I wonder why it has been allowed to falter so badly.

I have loved every batch of this one. Though this variation is why snuffs are scented more control over the consistency.

I had the same experience, when I ordered some it smelled like a stubbed out cigar. I could make a better snuff by drying out a gas-station cigar and running it through a coffee grinder.

Did a similar thing. Got a small container of the first batch and loved it, 10g gone in a day loved it. Reordered and it was like what the hell happened. I could grind up my wife’s cigarette butts and make a better snuff. Last night I just dumped almost 100g of the new batch grunt into my “this sucks, let’s mix it all together and hopefully it improves it jar”

A very generous friend gave me a sample of the original batch and it could easily be my every day snuff. I’ve since ordered some twice and received two very different snuffs. One was not too bad, rather cigar-ish, and the other had the ashtray thing going on. If they are ever able to reproduce the original I’ll buy tons but until then I’ll stay away.

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I guess I got into the Grunt game late. The first, and only batch I received smelled just like a nasty ashtray. I kind of scratched my head and wondered what all the fuss was about. So, I let it sit a week and went back to it…nope, same nasty ashtray. I had to trade it away to a devoted Grunt lover.

My 25g tub was from the asstray batch, and when I first tried it I thought I would never open it again. I gave it several more tries at later dates, and actually began to like it. Maybe I wouldn’t like it if I had tried the original, I couldn’t tell you. As everyone always says, don’t dump it, just hang on to it (or trade it away) and you may end up liking it eventually.

Grunt is the most inconsistant snuff on the market, every batch tastes completely different.

I’ve had several batchs of grunt and they are all somewhat different. There is always something consistent about it in my opinion it’s always awesome. And with a light oiliness.

I guess I should change my review of grunt. To" its any bodies guess" just not to mislead non snuffhouse.org readers ,since we are the informed ones and know it’s a crap shot, What your going to receive

I guess I should change my review of grunt. To" its any bodies guess" just not to mislead non snuffhouse.org readers ,since we are the informed ones and know it’s a crap shot, What your going to receive

“For what we are about to receive may the lord make us truly hopeful”'?

I got the ‘cigar’ batch and have been very meh about it. There are a lot of other snuffs in my collection that will get finished before that one ever does. I find myself being drawn to brands these days for their consistency. I do large orders very infrequently so if i get a dud I tend to have a lot of it. I need to cull out some weak ones and see how my stock really looks. Consistency is the reason I tend to order Toque, F&T, and just a scarce few others these days. I’d rather have just a few wonderfully consistent snuffs at my fingers than play a game of ‘quality roulette’ every time I order. Just my $0.02.

This is not the fault of Dholakia, so I would suggest not blaming the company at first. FUBAR isn’t a Dholakia’s tradmark and they are only making those for someone else. In this case, they don’t have the power to satisfy the consumer as how they would like, but they have to listen to the suggestion of the owners of the tradmark. I suppose also, that you won’t find on the tin “manufactured by Dholakia”, but “Made in India for…”. I would even could guess, that it might not only me made by Dholakia, but another company as well, since the tradmark owner can also do such things. Which results in variation of products in the same label. I also think that might be just an occasional mistake, which sometimes happens when a product is made in a big company. Let us keep the good spirit and hope that the next batches won’t be a disappointment Just wanted to clear this up

@lunecat I’ve had a problem with primarily the Dholakia sub-brands that are produced. QSnuff and FUBAR are the biggest offenders. I’ve had inconsistencies with the QSnuff Ice Cool (a good batch rocks, a bad batch smells like a breath mint), FUBAR Grunt, FUBAR RnR (One was a wonderful apricot, one smelled like detergent), There was even something different in the base between batches of FUBAR Medic, but that mattered less since the menthol masked most of the problems. Other than that I guess things were just lessons learned. Never order snuff in a tap box, the moisture will be inconsistent. Only order citrus Toques direct or they die. Etc…

That’s the point and problem of contract brands. The product is once made in company A and next time in company B. It’s really troublesome for the consumer, like in this situation.

I fell in love with what I’m assuming was the original Grunt. It was a sample sent by another member to me in a trade. I have since re-ordered twice and each time it has been different, the most recent being the “ash tray” grunt. I have found that it mellows out over time and bears some resemblance to the original, but not the same. With that said, it is still my go-to snuff…I never, ever leave home without my Grunt tin. Anyone looking to dispose of their ash tray grunt, send it my way. Also, I recently tried FUBAR Medic for the first time and loved it. To me, and I could be way off, it reminded me ever so slightly of a previous batch of grunt. Much more mild than the new version.

A new batch of grunt. Coconut to Chocolate to Ash Tray…where will this next one take us?

also have to add that grunt is advertised on strength which is always consistent

@MrSnuff - Thank’s for your efforts, I feel your pain. I have enjoyed the original batch and still hold you in high regard for selling so much of it to me… I intend to rule wisely with the remaining amount. Oddly enough, other than a small amount sampled from the last three batches, I have almost never been dissatisfied with Fubar Grunt. I am growing rather tired of the tattoo though, it still tends to itch, and remains almost impossible to scratch discreetly in public.

@bob I find Fubar Grunt to be very mild in the Nic department compared to other snuffs. I know it is supposed to be strong, but I have never gotten that. I found Medic even more mild.

@MrSnuff I will check the products at my end and let you know. The last consignment of Fubar Grunt was dispatched by Dholakia in August 2012 since then we have not shipped any consignment of Fubar only now as we speak we have dispatch your consignment of Fubar so kindly check and provide your valuable feedback for the same.

Well, in the interest of science, and as a general gesture of doing my part to restore order to the Universe, I am willing to supply a generous reference sample to Dholakia to help establish just what we are looking for here. The original batch is from around 2009. If it could be duplicated I am ready to purchase another Kilo. It has held up well when hermetically sealed.

Very eager to hear what the new Grunt is like.

Well, if they were able to make a reasonable facsimile to the original, I predict it would sell very well indeed.

@Whalen my dear (and disturbed) friend, I am with you 100% on the original batch of Grunt. When I ran out I got whatever batch was next and have not touched it since, I actually threw it away. If the original ever came back I would be another person who would be buying it in bulk!

Could not agree more Skell 18…

I tried the FUBAR Grunt and I thought it was okay, kind of know what everyone is when they describe the aroma as that of a snuffed out cigar. This makes me very curious to what the original batch was like considering this slip in quality, I have only started to explore fubar products within the past six months.

I must say I was also highly disappointed in this snuff. I generally dislike the smell of an old, stale, cheap cigar butt or cigarette butt and that, as all of you have said, is exactly what the new Grunt smells like. I even tried to mix it with some other Dholakias, but the Grunt permeated them all and ruined them as well.

Grunt, low man on the totem pole, lets hope they’ll learn to treat you all who choose that to a higher standard, disappointing to hear of such inconsistency, won’t make my purchase list until its cleared up

I just received my first tub of Grunt. I don’t the “ashtray” scent others have mention. I can see how some would describe it as that, however. To me, its earthy and plain. No scent of anything other than an earthy smell. Its rather nice, but not anything like above descriptions of it, with notes of coconut. If it was anything like the scent I get from Babeton Blue, then it was indeed great. Thats the only snuff I have tried thats vaguely coconut. I’ll keep on using the Grunt I have, maybe put a tonquin bean in it, or some of my newly created tonquin liquor made by soaking a bean in grain alcohol.

8 days later and now I know what everyone was talking about. Ashtray, thats exactly it. When I can get past that scent, its pretty nice snuff., Sits in nose nicely, moderate nic and burn, okat drip. I sure wish I’d tried it before they mucked it up w/ essence of old ashtray. Can’t find my last remaining tonquin bean. It’s hiding in the pre WWII Regno de Italia somewhere.

I just got a jar of the stuff on a whim without knowing much about it other than it’s meant to be strong. One sniff reminded me of the manky old cigar bucket I keep at the end of the garden with all my cigar ends it. I don’t even have the stomach to even try it the smell alone is flexing my gag reflex.