Did anyone grow there own this year ?

What kind did you grow ? Where do you live ( Climate ) ? How are you going to cure it ?

i didnt, but im interested. UK, any tips would be appreciated, i want high nic snuff and cigar, i had a quick look online and im thinking black mammoth variety to start? shame i dont know anyone in person to go through it with me.

How many leaves I need to make 100g snuff?

100g of leaves

@kurtsnose: Yes, I grew 14 plants this year in 22" pots. On my front lawn, no less. :stuck_out_tongue: For the last 3 years, I’ve been air-curing (full stalk, no priming) in my marginally climate controlled garage. (it’s not well sealed, but there are also poorly sealed heat/ac vents that slightly leak into the garage) I live on the east coast of the US. (northern New Jersey). But my experience tells me that it can be done nearly anywhere you have ~90 days of growing season and plenty of sunlight. I grow for about 120 days outdoors (May 15 - mid-September). Everyone local said I couldn’t grow my own tobacco, but I assure you they were wrong in my 4th season doing it. This year I grew: TA110 Greenwood Dark TA28 Small Stalk Black Mammoth TA60 Pennsylvania Red Leaf TA69 Long Red Leaf TA82 Keller Brown Tobacco TA84 Hungarian Red Leaf Plus some Virginia and Havana and other seeds from previous season’s grows which may be hybrids. I just try to make a nice mix of dark green tobaccos, and maybe after a few years I’ll be able to say xyz makes a perfect snuff. I’m not there yet, though. 4 years in. @Firestarter0: The snuff I’ve made is 2nd only to Toque’s Rustica+Sodium Bicarbonate in nicotine strength. In other words, it is way stronger than most commercial snuffs I’ve used. I haven’t tried to roll a cigar yet, but maybe this season. But typical processing for cigars is way way different from snuff-making. You’d have to grow a whole lot of tobacco to build proper pilones (piles) of tobacco to process raw leaf the way commercial cigar makers do. @Viertel: Don’t worry about that, though the answer to your question is about 10-14 big leaves (1-2 plants). Just get started. There’s a lot of learning to get going. If you try to make exactly the amount you need to get 100g, you’ll wind up way short for at least the first 2 years. Just grow as many plants as you can, then cure as many of them as you can. If you’re like me, you’ll wind up with little more than a couple hundred g’s of snuff, but I promise that the experience is worth it. I say grow as much as you can because there’s so many points where things can go wrong. Germination, seedlings, transplantation, growing season (bugs!!!), harvest, curing, etc can all incur losses. I start out with about 144 seeds to germinate and take the top 10% to transplantation. This season, I lost about 20-25% of my potential harvest due to delaying my harvest. Life got in the way, and I didn’t cut my tobacco down until nearly the end of October. But I topped my plants in late August, and I would have optimized my harvest by taking them in the 2nd week of September. Fortunately, the season was forgiving, but many leaves went brown/black on the stalk. Shame on me, but I still hung 8-10 stalks for this season’s cure. I don’t worry, unless I didn’t get any hung at all. If you have any intention of doing it, just get started next season. As big as you can reasonably go. Experience is the best teacher. And it’s almost 2 years from germination to product, so the sooner you get started the better. Some links, though there are other sources: http://www.seedman.com for seeds http://howtogrowtobacco.com for instruction, though it’s mostly cigarette smokers there. I’ve done alright with air-curing, and there’s some guidance there for that. Good luck and go have at it. I just took a pinch of my homegrown as a good luck gesture to those interested. Maybe @Whalen will chime in with a review of my snuff or my raw leaf. I sent some to him about a year ago, but didn’t get much detailed feedback. I wish I had heard more of what he thought, but it was right in the middle of Hurricane Sandy for both of us, so I don’t blame him one bit.

How many leaves I need to make 100g snuff?

As a general rue in the plant kingdom you are left with 10% dry material after a dehydration process.

I grew my own here in Colorado, not tobacco this year, but serious clones, may try scenting a snuff. However, I purchased “Hopi Mapacho” seeds, and will plant next year to make my own Rustica.

Puffpuff - Your snuff was good! Sorry for the lack of feedback, yes the Sandy did take up all my time for about a month, monster oak, all this years firewood. The strength was good, a bit monotone, as the leaf was prominent, by that I mean it was young, I have some of it here that was sealed well, I will give it a go and get back to you, alas I have a bad cold ATM.

i wouldnt mind reviewing samples of home grown snuff, i want to know what home growing is capable of (UK preferred, but still want to try everywhere else), and i want to try as many as possible :stuck_out_tongue:

@Whalen, yeah, that would be my description, too. Young. I bet it could use 12-18 hours of heat, instead of the 8 that I’ve done so far. But I bet that contributes to it’s strength, too. Less nicotine gets broken down in processing. I hope you feel better soon! @Firestarter0. I will look into the feasibility of sending overseas.

As every year we did grow our own three species of Tobacco next to the mill. A good crop this year, but as always to little to do more than harvesting. Jaap Bes.

I was wondering if tobacco, if planted properly and left to go to seed, will become reoccuring season to season, on its own. I live in western NY(spring,summer,winter,fall) and have an unused hay field that is going wild(thorn bushes,milkweed,goldenrod,etc). I assume a Rustica seed would do better if left to its nature, but i’m not entirely sure it will come back at all?

@PotPoe, I have tried to naturalize rustica to no avail. perhaps it germinates too readily and then the seedlings die off with the first frost.

This coming Spring will be the first time tobacco has been grown on my family’s land in about 40 years or so… though we have grown some red Virginia 5-gallon bucket crops in the past. Anyway, we’ll be growing quite a bit of black mammoth, latakia and Virginias this time 'round. will smoke cure in our little “juniper barns” which is what we call the little “barns” formed by all of the juniper trees around our house. we often hem them in and use them as little barns.

@puffpuff Tobacco should grow in NJ. Connecticut (No. 9) is a source of tobacco. Witness the drying barns while driving around the state. Canada also produces. Top 10 per USDA: State Total Tobacco Acreage 1. North Carolina 170,083 2. Kentucky 87,641 3. Virginia 20,881 4. Tennessee 20,109 5. South Carolina 20,084 6. Georgia 17,989 7. Pennsylvania 7,886 8. Ohio 3,499 9. Connecticut 3,128 10. Indiana 2,174

@jpsavage “1. North Carolina 170,083” and the winner is… :smiley: the old north state as always :smiley:

@general_desaix Yeah, you live in the heart of it and should grow some fine leaf. Just that a lot of folks don’t know that it grows about anywhere. Why do many cigars boast of having a Connecticut wrapper? While working there I had to question the long, open sided barns seen in fields along the highway. Answer: tobacco barns

@jpsavage very sad state here anymore on tobacco barns-- when I was growing up in the '70’s/'80’s there were old tobacco barns EVERYWHERE— including those of my Great-Grandfather–however, they are being torn down at a mile a minute these days— I miss them all-- they served as bunkers when I was playing war as a boy and hiding spots when I first got on dip and cigs as a kid, ha. I once stuck my head in one and a barn owl who was perched in it almost took my head off, ha!

Yes. Every year we grow three species near the windmills. Nicotiana tabaccum; Nicotiana rustica and Nicotiana allata. Jaap Bes.

Anyone have seeds to share my order from the usda was refused and have room for a few hundred plants I have some burley seeds coming but want a few different ones to produce seed on a few and the rest for production of baccy for pipe and snuff