Hi, Newbie here. I was a 60 a day ciggie smoker, but found e-cigs (vaping) and loved it. Quit smoking completely. However, after 6 months things went bad. Diagnosed with Diabetes. Can’t vape anymore. There are also concerns with snus and diabetes. So I want to start using Nasal Snuff, but can’t find any information regarding snuff and diabetes. Is it safe to use with diabetes? Would really like to use it, and learn more. If anyone knows anything about this, I would really appreciate the help. Thanks in advance, if you can help.
What’s wrong with the other stuff? I ask because if snus is a no go it seems like snuff would be too. I don’t know but it seems that way to me. I don’t know.
I know there is salt added to snus and that may be the cause. All of the studies I read on the net argue about whether or not snus badly effects diabetes but I can’t find what it is in the snus that they’re blaming. It also has humectants added which I believe cause fluid retention. I really don’t know any answers, just want to be able to use something decent thats not cigarette or useless nrt. Thanks for reply.
Might depend on the snuff style then.
Nicotine messes with your insulin sensitivity. http://www.snuson.com/forum/showthread.php?15545-Nicotine-and-Insulin
I know there is salt added to snus and that may be the cause. All of the studies I read on the net argue about whether or not snus badly effects diabetes but I can’t find what it is in the snus that they’re blaming. It also has humectants added which I believe cause fluid retention. I really don’t know any answers, just want to be able to use something decent thats not cigarette or useless nrt. Thanks for reply.
Salt is added to in nasal snuff and in some -especially the german ones- there is parafin oil added as humectant. I think sugar -besides natural occuring fruit sugar- is sometimes added to in the saucing for scent.
Thanks for all the replies folks. It looks like nasal snuff might not be the answer. Though reading on through the link juxtaposer posted (thanks) one guy found snuff ok for him when snus wasn’t. Also thanks for info CVH. I’ll just have to experiment and see.
I haven’t had problems with either snus or nasal snuff. But I don’t need insulin. I’m on Metformin.
In light of what’s posted above (including external links), my gut reaction is that it’s likely got something to do with autonomic control and reactivity (how the systems react to each other not to the nicotine agent). Unfortunately (in this case) acetylcholine (ACh) has a vast range of functions and there are many cholinergic systems in the body. With both sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems, ACh is the mediator between pre- and postganglionic neurons and in both networks through nicotinic receptors (different from the brain and neuromuscular junctions at skeletal muscle, but not of import here, just an extra fact). What that means is messing with nicotine, a direct agonist of cholinergic nicotinic receptors, you can expect a wide-range of effects, for example: with attention in the brain, and with the autonomic system throughout the body. The autonomic systems have a role in everything visceral. So insulin sensitivity may be a local intracellular (“monocellular”) action but the autonomic system will play a role indirectly–through many many mechanisms–but vitally in a condition like diabetes. I want to be clear in saying I don’t know the answer, I’m just providing some facts from my area of expertise, outlined based on what I read above. The salt mentioned in snus above is also of interest, although this could be far ranging: from something similar to the issue with humectants mentioned above, to a general systemic wellness, to a local action on insulin receptor sensitivity. Sorry this isn’t of definitive help, but it is an educated proposition.
Give one a try, maybe one with less vitamin N, and check your blood sugar a few times in the following hour or two. I know several diabetics that smoke and snus myself. - usual “im not a medical professional, consult with a physician disclaimer”
Cheers everyone for all the info/suggestions.
Lot of good info above… absolutely the schmalzers have sugar content in them…To quote @hdsale - usual “im not a medical professional, consult with a physician disclaimer” - but this is my take on it… I have type 2 diabetes… It doesn’t control me… I control it… It’s all in our diets!!! Period!!! Diabetics should be more concerned with what they eat, rather than other habits… The standard American diet is the most detrimental facet of all our health concerns! Whether we are diabetic or not! The corporate machine has been poisoning us the last 40 years ( easy ) through the hype media food… 98 percent of food in a standard supermarket causes heart attacks , cancer and diabetes ( amongst other diseases and allergies ) high fructose corn syrup, preservatives , processed white flours, chemicals, sodiums is not what we are supposed to feed to our bodies… I finally came to this realization and have my diabetes in check… FDA ( food and drug administration ) puts on a great show! Sure they act fast when there is a ecoli scare or tainted food… But the FDA is the protection arm for the AMA ( american medical association ) and BIG PHARMA… They are like the mafia protecting the teamsters ( because of pension funds ) BIG MONEY IN MEDICINE AND - … PHARMACEUTICALS… Both Trillion dollar industries that has tentacles and infrastructure that supports millions of employees… I FINALLY OPENED MY EYES AS TO WHAT IS REALLY GOOD FOR ME… Not medicines, not supermarket food… The answer is out there for each and every one of us… Just search , ask and you will get your answers! - DISCLAIMER … lol … as usual “im not a medical professional, consult with a physician disclaimer” - Physicians my ass… AMA has squashed every natural based cancer remedy, because you can’t patent anything from nature, unless replicated in a lab! NO PATENTS… No R & D funding …no new drugs… No keeping people who are stricken with cancer on 6000 dollar a month chemo drugs ! BIG BUSINESS !!! Btw … Heart attacks have been steadily on the rise since 1910… Ask yourself why? The poison we are fed in our minds and mouths… And some tap water …good luck !
My main concern with diabetes wouldn’t be the sugar so much as the vasopressive effects of nicotine honestly. I might be completely off base but isn’t diabetes of either type associated with increased risk for cardiac events? But snuff doesn’t do much to my blood pressure at any rate, if I absolutely stuff my nose it might raise my diastolic pressure five points or so at most. I’ve done some self-experiments.
If your on metformin your Type 2 so e-cigs snus and snuff is all ok better than smoking