What is this the same snuff with a different grind ?

I would say absolutly not. Dholakia African is nearly unsnuffable. Its very very coarse, and more importantly, completely saturated w/ammonia. I really don’t know how it would be enjoyable. Dholkia Black is fine and oiled(i think), and, if you can get beyond the- “check the bottom of your shoe for poo scent” i get from it, you will probably enjoy it.

Does the African have less of the “bottom of the shoe” scent than the Black? Personally I’d rather have the ammonia, and at least that can be aired out, right? I simply can’t take the D. Black or D. Medicated, but can totally groove on Sparrow Cool or NTSU etc.

The African is lightly mentholated as well

@PotPoe The scent of barnyard is better than cat piss, The barnyard scent with the ammonia scent is part of the fermentation process when tiny little microbes fart all over your snuff. this is what they look like= https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQfiCfYcFETM19HvveHMbulHPQIzK6B\\_g-qdKRCq70aBS\\_CIhNULw

I was looking forward to African, but not if it has a cat piss element. Is it barnyard (which I like) or cat piss with African?

@cakeanddottle not cat piss that is only in Connecticut shade wrapper on cigars

ok then it stays in the cart. Not to thread hijack, but what snuff has the biggest livestock factor? So far for me it’s Viking Brown. Love to try some more like that. I don’t get barnyard from any of the Kendal Browns.

air out the ammonia it’s easy you leave the lid of the tin for a little while and the ammonia smell is gone.

@cakeanddottle Gwayi tobacco from South Africa all have strong barnyard scent [Taxi,NTSU,and Babaton] These snuffs for some reason have a very course grind. I don’t know if it is traditional or just region preference

Taxi Blue isn’t in the same league as the great English coarse snuffs. It’s a pass for me on reorder. Would I feel different about NTSU or Babaton?

@cakeanddottle Your right different animal, like comparing a schmalzler to indian snuff. If you don’t like taxi then you won’t get on with the other two.

See I don’t get the manurey smell at all from the S Africans so far and I’ve had 8 or 9 of them. There’s a scent I’ve found in a couple of Indian snuff and only from Indians, maybe we’re talking about a different smell? The only thing I ever dislike from the S Africans disappears after a bit of airing out- and even that only bothers me some of the time. Beauty must be in the nose of the beholder.

‘Beauty must be in the nose of the beholder’ Truer words were seldom spoken…

My gracious appreciation

What about Neffa Ifrikia, it’s not course or moist and has a serious barnyard scent to it IMO, I don’t think it’s an African snuff though.

ok then it stays in the cart. Not to thread hijack, but what snuff has the biggest livestock factor? So far for me it’s Viking Brown. Love to try some more like that. I don’t get barnyard from any of the Kendal Browns.

SG Crests, to my nose.

Ntsu is suprisingily good when dried out almost completely. It takes on scents that you wouldn’t expect. Like a slightily floral hint and a touch o honey too. Actualy like it when it’s most of the way to bone dry.

@snuffsniffer Neffa Ifrikia is more of a North African style: think Berber or Algerian, Moroccan, etc. Geographically as far from South Africa as either is from India. Having said that, not all South African snuffs are the gwayi (Zulu) style. Bob mentioned Magnet in another thread, and there is also Wilsons Best Blend and probablya couple more.

wait are you saying that magnet is not was a enjoyable snuff???

No, I said Magnet was a non-gwayi South African snuff. I din’t say it was bad, but I should have.

I just thought they stopped makeing it and was trying to get a confirmation that they had or had not stopped making it. I really liked that one it was one of a kind.

‘Beauty must be in the nose of the beholder’ Truer words were seldom spoken…

Thank’s Stogie! bob- I found the magnet menthol interesting, still have some around here, but I’m not expecting it to have cellarred(sp?) well. Never had the peach, was there another?

Anything that smalls like cat crap on a shoe just doesn’t sound appealing to me. I had one snuff that smelled like potting soil. It is no longer in my possession with an intentionally undisclosed method of disposal.

air out the ammonia it’s easy you leave the lid of the tin for a little while and the ammonia smell is gone.

nah… the good´ol ammonia

I enjoy the ammonia this insures me it is still fermenting, and part of the joy to experience

I just muddle through the ammonia smell of the Taxi and NTSU. After a day or 2 of regular use all the opening and closing of the container takes care of that smell.

I never notice an ammonia smell. I just classify it as a “fresh” smell, and it doesn’t bother me in the least!

Fresh Ntsu reeks of ammonia, more so than any other snuff have tried. Some compare it to cat urine. I think its stronger than that. Some speculate that ammonia is added to the snuff beyond what occurs naturally. Some air the ammonia out for an hour before snuffing, but I like it ammonia and all. It seems to intensify the buzz.

I have just begun to snuff Dholakia African, in the snus type plastic tub. Here are my impressions… coarse, moist, can’t pin down the exact scent, but its reminiscent of the Taxi or Babeton blue. Only the slightest hint of menthol. I do not detect ammonia at all. Very high nic level. My first take on it is that its very similar to the Zulu style S. African snuffs, just like someone above mentioned. It has the back of my head throbbing just now…my personal indicator of high nicotine. I like it.

I found my tin to have almost a ‘rough’ texture to it. It is moist, but not Swedish Match Taxi moist. High sodium as well. Great for the nic hit. Not bad in the lip.

I actually enjoy Dholakia Black whereas the African is horrific on many levels. First the aroma is very off putting (IMHO). Also, far to coarse for my snuffing enjoyment.

I took a chance ordering 50g African during the 50% off sale at Mr. Snuff and what I got was totally not what I expected. I thought it would be like NTSU in colour, moistness and grind but it is brown, medium grind, and medium moisture. It has a bit of menthol and it’s a bit… different. I can’t pin down the scenting but it’s unlike any African snuff I’ve tried so far. I’ll have to spend a bit more time with it but I’m not loving it so far. Is it possible I got something mis-labelled? Here’s a pic beside some Black (which is every bit as good as I remember it).

@crullers - You had got me curious I just opened a 25g tub- 2yr old and mine is dark almost black and coarse grind. I was going to get Africa in Jan. but I had to restrain . I would contact @Manit_Joshi representing Dholakia . Looks like a quality control issue, mislabeling

Thanks @basement_shaman, I thought something wasn’t right when I opened it compared to what I’d read about it.

I’m no Dholakia expert, but based on the photo and your description, maybe you’ve got some Sparrow Cool by mistake? A fantastic snuff in its own right, but here’s hoping you get it cleared up.

I’m no Dholakia expert, but based on the photo and your description, maybe you’ve got some Sparrow Cool by mistake? A fantastic snuff in its own right, but here’s hoping you get it cleared up.

No, it’s definitely not as fine and dry as Sparrow Cool and there is other scenting besides the menthol. I haven’t tried many of their other snuffs so I don’t know if it’s another snuff mislabelled or if it’s African scenting on a different tobacco base. I’ve notified Manit_Joshi from Dholakia in case it’s a production issue. I’m not too concerned about it even if it’s not quite what I expected, five bucks for 50g tobacco is a pretty good deal.

Dholakia Black has varied so much from batch to batch. I miss the earthy mint-chocolate dung thing from the earlier batches, it’s way less exciting now and definitely not as delicious.

The D. African I have is sort of like NTSU. Black, coarse, slight ammonia scent. Nothing at all like that photo. The D. Black is oily, messy, nice scent but very mild. I like it a lot, even though I hear its got the barnyard smell, which I guess I’m immune to since I live on a farm with goats and horses. In fact, when I clean their stalls in the barn, I always pinch something menthol to ward off the smells!

I just got both of these, and as far as the Black goes, there’s a good chance I won’t be giving that one a second pinch.  “Bottom of the shoe” - along those lines.  The African however… maybe they have been changing up the recipe.  I think I got the same version as @crullers, which is nothing like the majority if these posts.  Medium/fine grind, and a substantial amount of menthol.  It has a bit of an exotic Indian snuff scent, with a musty African spin on it?.. pretty hard to describe really.  Not bad, I actually kind of like it.

Cat piss is a normal smell in fresh snuff, toasts and SP will also smell of cat piss. It fades with time, you can leave the lid off for a few hours and that usually works.

I haven’t had African but Black definitely varies a lot batch to batch. The first batch I had was really awesome and one of the best snuffs I’ve ever had, somehow there was a “mint chocolate cake” scent as well as barnyard is the only way I can describe it. But the next batch I got was different and still good but not as good as the first. It’s been a couple of years maybe it’s time to order some more.

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How does the newest batch that mrsnuff has of D Black compare to the previous batches say about 2 years ago?

On a side note: How can anyone go and “air out” S.A. snuffs ? I will NEVER understand.

Anyway… i am going to try this D. African too. Never had it so far.

I recently received a 50g tub of D African, and they must have changed the recipe because it’s no longer an African style, coarse ground, barnyard smelling snuff. Its reddish brown, fine ground, medium menthol plus some herbal smelling scent. I was disappointed, but it’s growing on me. Not bad, nice tobacco and the drip isn’t unpleasant. This is totally unlike the D. African I described in my previous post.

I have just received the Black and the African, I have not tried the Black yet but the African is superb… I will defo be buying again, stuffed it up my nose and wow… on par with White elephant on the nicotine front… tobacco flavor with a mild menthol that lingers for a long time, very smooth and no drip at all…