all of my snuffs from them with the exception of ap and oranjensuff they all smell the same they all smell like plain tobacco and nothing else im extremely dissapointed
You must not have tried Latakia ao 1860 or Pompadour, I assume. Some of their formulas are based on certain classic 19th century snuffs, and likely the differences are subtle, based on varying ratios of different types of natural tobaccos from around the world, due to the English tobacco purity laws that put a crimp on adding perfumes and flavorings for a while. They do have some more modern blend though, like Chococreme-L, which is second only to Dholakia Swiss Chocolate in the cocoa flavored snuffs.
I have not yet had the pleasure of sampling them yet but the blends that take into consideration what various tobaccos can do together are really something I enjoy. @cpmcdill, Lat. and those others listed sound great. I think I will add them to my wish list which is growing by the day.
@J_S I consider their Latakia ao 1860 one of my favorites among their offerings. The A/P is also good, but some people might find the pine aroma too redolent of Pine-Sol cleaning products. The Chococreme-L is nice because it has a subtle underlayer of latakia which actually enhances the cocoa flavor. If you get the tap box size, I recommend moving it to an airtight jar, as the boxes don’t preserve the moisture or aroma as well as they should.
@cpmcdill The Chococreme sounds great too. Lat. and cocoa go great together. I will pick some up too.
I had just revisited what I have yesterday. They all have unique scents that develop with time in the nose. I have some St.Omer No 1 right in front of me. I don’t see it lasting very long. I guess I should bottle it up before it all gone.
Mr. Bes very kindly sent me three different tobaccos (Musinotabak, Prins Regent and Chococrem) to sample and even though I consider myself a beginner, they definitely did not smell the same. Great snuffs.
I have tried all of Jaap’s wonderful creations, and I have to say that they are all great, each in their own way, with their own personality. Snuff is, or should be, in my humble opinion, about the tobacco. Otherwise we might as well mill it out of grass clippings or somesuch. The leaf is the heart and soul of snuff. The rest of it is embellishment and enhancement; NOT the center of attention. Again, just my opinion. Along the same line of thinking; it’s not about nicotine either. Nicotine is in there. It is what it is. YMMV. I think Jaap’s FCV in both millings are a wonderful example of pure tobacco bliss. They both have a prominent position in my rotation and aren’t likely to be replaced anytime soon. Jaap coaxes out the subtle nuances in the leaf like few, if any, others have accomplished. The balance of his portfolio is equally impressive. Not a dawg in the bunch.
I have to say I agree with Jeff to an extent, some of the scents are very subtle, but as Jaap is recreating snuffs from days gone by that’s how they would’ve been - from what I recall of a history of Fribourg & Treyer for instance, the perfumed snuffs were for adding to plain snuff, not snuffing on their own, so is it a case these days that we’re in effect drinking neat Ribena without adding the water? That said, amongst the perfumed snuffs, Prins Regent, Bon-Bon and Pompadour are all quite recognisably scented, very different, and all superb.
@ all: :"> Thanks for all your kind words. We keep on reviving historical recipes. Jaap Bes.
i do like ao and oranjensnuff and st.omer no 1 seems to be quite interesting slightly smokey with a hint of something else in it
I have to say I agree with Jeff to an extent, some of the scents are very subtle, but as Jaap is recreating snuffs from days gone by that’s how they would’ve been - from what I recall of a history of Fribourg & Treyer for instance, the perfumed snuffs were for adding to plain snuff, not snuffing on their own, so is it a case these days that we’re in effect drinking neat Ribena without adding the water? That said, amongst the perfumed snuffs, Prins Regent, Bon-Bon and Pompadour are all quite recognisably scented, very different, and all superb.
Great call, especially on F&T snuffs back in their day. Hygiene wasn’t what it is today, so perfumes were the only weapon against what must have been a stench suitable for our EPA to involve themselves. As is, they are so strongly scented that cutting them with a plain or lightly scented snuff would be the only way a normal homo sapien could possibly indulge them. Personally they are all at the bottom of my list with the notable exception of HDT, which I consider one of the top snuffs of all time.
@chefdaniel I´m with you about HDT, but I also think that “Old Paris” and “Santo Domingo” well deserve a mention apart from the rest of perfumey F&Ts
@snuffvillian Agreed. I find that if I blend a plain snuff with the over the top F&T blends I can find that happy medium. The ratios are heavily in favor of the plain. I find that 10% F&T delivers the right balance. Not a steady diet, but nice for those times I want that something floral. For florals I tend to go Toque for frequent/daily use. When I’m feeling self indulgent I dip into SWS Roslein or Abraxas Prince Regent…the two finest floral snuffs ever made in my humble opinion. Absolute genius, those two. Cheers
all of my snuffs from them with the exception of ap and oranjensuff they all smell the same they all smell like plain tobacco and nothing else im extremely dissapointed
guess i’m crazy. i consider molenes snuff very spicy and distinctive.