I am on my knees, the Latakia range is simply amazing! I am writing a review for my blog but need an additional information about two reign pieces: Latakia AO 1860 and A/P. I have read (here, from Jaap himself) that in AO 1860 is not Latakia. Does he mean THE Latakia (from Syria) or that it is blended without any smoking (maybe like Bernards Alt Offenbacher which could remind the smokey aroma just thanks to a special blending of differently fermented tobaccos)? And A/P, I guess it is smoked with pine but not sure for AO 1860. Any information highly appreciated!
Its true that the Latakia is not true Latakia from Latakia, Syria. Neither is it alternate Latakia from Cyprus. It is in fact another tobacco made in the same fashion as Latakia. I’ve forgotten what, exactly, but as you say Jaap has mentioned it here before someplace. As far as I’m aware the A/P is the same snuff as Ao 1860 but simply with added scents.
AO1860 is a fantastic snuff. Quite frankly I don’t care what the blend is, just as long as he keeps selling it
@ all: Correct. The Latakia Ao 1860 got its name from a suggestion of Professor Phillips Griffith. Older members may remember him and his own website Snuffhouse.org. It was was my first experiment to produce snuff with the Kralingse windmills and there for I used the tobaccos originally used by the first owners of the windmills. Virgina and Darkfired formerly known as Kentucky. The Oranjesnuif, Pepermuntsnuif and A/P snuif are all flavoured Latakia Ao 1860’s. Jaap Bes.
Thanks, it helps. Is the A/P flavoured with smoke or is that another ingredient? :-?
@Welblaud it’s the dark fired Kentucky that gives it that smokiness.
I am in doubts, it seems Kentucky is in AO 1860, A/P is not just a simple stronger AO 1860, is it? snuffmiller have just written A/P is flavoured AO 1860 I wish to know the nature of that flavourising.
A/P is flavored with a pine tree / spruce scent
And its vonderful. AO 1860 and A/P are on my ‘to buy in bulk’ list.
Indeed. I have bulk of the entire Latakia range
snuffmiller have just written A/P is flavoured AO 1860
I wish to know the nature of that flavourising.
Trade secret I suspect, old chap.
Ok, I think the secret here could be more in weights and proper blending. I can guess (of course, aware of possible naivity) Pepermunt is flavoured with oils as is stated on Molens’ site, the same Oranje—orange peel, and could imagine in case of A/P there could be some additive smoking. [Oh, don’t want to know how much are used chemicals today in flavouring of snuff!]
A/P “Latakia Ao 1860 based snuff with the scent of pineforests” No trade secret since they are for the most part historical recreations. This one is simply the Latakia Ao 1860 with the addition of pine and spruce scents. The smokiness you are getting is the same as the Ao 1860.
I am not convinced—the flavour is really different for me. AO 1860 is sweeter and a bit to barbecue and A/P is like with added resin. It is too easy to state there is “a scent”. I just wish to know if that’s essential oil or if the blend is cured more with fire smoke (like the true Latakia was and toast probably are before grinding). Thanks for comments anyway.
@ Welblaud: It is as I stated before. Oranjesnuif is Latakia Ao 1860 with orange and lemon essences flavoured. Pepermuntsnuif is Latakia Ao 1860 flavoured with Japanese peppermint oil, menthol and eucalyptus oil and A/P snuif is Latakia Ao 1860 flavoured with the essential oils of Pine and Spruce needles. Slight differences in flavour can occur since we produce in small batches, no more ten 1 kg /batch. Only the Latakia Ao 1860 is produced in batches of several kg’s Hope this helps. Jaap Bes.
On spot! Thank you very much! ^:)^
Howdy Jaap! Essential oils of pine… We are talking about terpentine here, right? >:)
@Howdydave: I am not sure if it is the same. My provider calls it Oleum Pini sylvestris and it is prepared by dry destillation of needles and branches. As for the Spruce it is Oleum Abietis albae and it is prepared by steam destillation of needles and twigs. Jaap Bes.
I think those are the same as any other essential oil typically used for vaporizing, healthcare and so on.
@Howdydave: I am not sure if it is the same. My provider calls it Oleum Pini sylvestris and it is prepared by dry destillation of needles and branches. As for the Spruce it is Oleum Abietis albae and it is prepared by steam destillation of needles and twigs. Jaap Bes.
Its definitely not turpentine (although it may contain some terpenes) since turpentine is distilled from pine tree resin. Sounds more like an essential oil to me as well, I may have to give the A/P a try. I really like the AO base and if pine needles were layered on top it would remind me of an evening camping in the woods.