Big tobacco will have no problem paying the registration fees and tariffs to sell several million packets of cigarettes every single day. The economics work in their favour, unlike with snuff.
I agree. It is almost like a mafia of sorts according to me and a good revenue generator for the governments. Hence they will ban everything but cigarettes…
there is too much speculation going on about brexit in my opinion because its too early. it will probably take years to hammer out all the details. that being said, i think the big cigarette companies have enough sway in governments around the globe to make sure they dont lose all their customers in the UK. But again, that is still speculation (and a little bit of conspiracy theory) lol
there is a lot of speculation going on in my country, the U.S, about president trump. your support or opposition for the president is the touchiest subject right now. this “us or them” attitude people are getting makes it impossible to have an open discussion and gives rise to extremism on both sides. it is dangerous path to take.
its not ok to call one group of people nazis or homophobes but it is ok to call another group a cancer on society? im not trying to say which one of those groups i agree with. i just wanted to point that out that i think that is a bit of a double standard.
i hope that doesnt come off as insulting because that is not my intention
I must admit I’m quite happy to be a social justice warrior, but at least one that’s grown up since he left University. There, of course, in with the trendy lefties, I called anyone who disagreed with me a fascist, not having the slightest idea what fascism actually was. I see now that this behaviour is simply an excuse for not having an argument with which to rebut your opponents, and a sign of a very thin skin. But not all people who are interested in social justice are like that. Although it’s a clunkier and less user-friendly description, i prefer to think of people whom Lunecat has described as being adequately summed-up by the historian Michael Burleigh as:
“Intolerant tolerance-fetishists”.
Listen to Jello Biafra & Mojo Nixons’ version of “Love Me I’m a Liberal” for a laugh sometime about this. Or Holiday in Cambodia by Dead Kennedys.
The whole PC/SJW has done a major disservice to anti-racism, civil rights, voter rights, women’s rights, and human rights in general. There are real, valid issues such as police brutality, voter suppression, wage equality etc. but they get swept away with all the “trigger warning” and language-policing nonsense. I understand why it pisses people off, but the we shouldn’t lose sight of the woods through the trees.
As for fascism and Nazism in relation to the current U.S. administration, I suggest reading a bit about the ideologies of Trump-appointees like Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller. I’m not calling anyone a Nazi, but I am saying they that their beliefs clearly have a lot in common with fascism. Like Sessions and others, they have made overtly racist comments. If the shoe fits…
I’ve left this forum before, and now, I feel it’s time to go again. A thread gets closed down for virtually nothing, but we let conservative bigots post their drivel on and on. Enjoy your forum.
@Declan : I believe lunecat was banned because he was getting too personal and vindictive, NOT because of his political leanings.
All members: it should be borne in mind that this is not the forum to discuss your own or anybody else’s political views.
It is first and foremost a snuff forum.
All political comments should be limited to how legislation relates directly to snuff or other tobacco products. Straying away from that basic premise can cause discussions to rapidly decline into offensive spats which is not what we are about here. There are a myriad of other forums to spout away till your heart is content, but there is only really one snuffhouse.
Having said that, I agree that when lunecat was on the topic of snuff he was a great member: knowledgeable, erudite fellow and had very interesting things to say. So, yes it is a shame.
im so sorry, i feel like this is all my fault. this was not my intention. i like lunecats comments on other threads and he seemed very knowledgeable. i will not comment on anything to political again.
Chico: I actually feel European first, British second
Lunecat: God I hate people that say “I am European first and British second” those kind of people are the worst kind of politically immature, ignorat morons that have ever existed! (sic - not sure if the typo was deliberate or not)
For the record, none of the moderators are employed. They are all volunteers. I can assure you they are not vetted by political opinion. I honestly haven’t the slightest clue what the political leanings of any of the moderators is. You could have volunteered yourself if you feel it is unbalanced politically - though that should not even be a consideration here since it is not a political site.
The mods mandate is simply (and I quote):
–making sure that snuff and tobacco are the main topics of discussion; keeping the website free of too much political discussion, especially when it strays away from tobacco; not allowing ANY flaming, trolling, or other personal attacks on any other member. Think of it as a friendly, non-threatening gentlemen
I’m “making my self known” as asked.
First of all, up until a couple hours ago, I was the only regularly participating Moderator, there was no “team”
That’s no secret, everyone that’s been here for a while knows who I am.
I’ve been “flying by night” on this forum for almost 10 years.
I spent 4 days in England, 30 years ago. Here in the US, I’m a registered Republican but I have voted for both parties, over the years.
I apologize for my ignorance but I have no idea what being “leftist” means. Seriously, not a clue.
I was minding my own business, ignoring all this political talk until a member, mentioning me by name, told me to “sober up” and “put my spliff down”
There have been other comments from this same member that I’ve quietly deleted that were very derogatory.
Hey Andrew / Lunecat / Declan. You used to be a moderator, you know we have access to everyone’s IP address. Nice try using a IP masker when you first opened your "Declan account. You forgot to stick with it tho…