First, let me say that I am still working on this myself and I would fall under the following: * I love tobacco * I only wish to remove cigarettes * Patches, Gums, Mints or Pills do not work for me * Considered a heavy smoker (more than 2 packs a day) I thought it might be helpful to me and others that are working on this problem or have quit and want to share the success. I now have my habit down to under a pack a day and hope to remove it before the new year. Part of my own solution is just basic understanding of what is really happening as compared to what I thought was happening. Also how this forum and snuff has helped me a lot (Thank You to all the Kewl folks) I started thinking about all the forms of tobacco that I truly love, cigars, pipes and snuff and for some reason I can not place cigarettes into this list but it is just as much a part of me as my job, morning coffee, decisions & planning and even boredom. Surely this form of tobacco has taken over my life. I also starting understanding that other see that I am hooked by things they say things like: Your upset, go smoke a cigarette and calm down You can figure this out, go smoke one and come back with a solution It doesn’t help when others knew more about your habit then you realize Now I have a basis to quit. I don’t love them, they are hogging my life and other are using them to control me. Hell, I’m a slave to a habit After trying the conventional ways only to fail, I know I need a better habit to take it’s place. I also know that I do not wish to expand my current love for cigars or pipes because both are for relaxing and savoring the moment. I always enjoyed snuff but never thought of it as a replacement until recently. This is my new plan and it is working: I do not torture myself if I wish to have a cigarette I clean the ash tray and put it away afterwards and burn and incense to freshen the air I practice first trying a dose of snuff before a cigarette Snuff is great for this because you can do it anywhere and each time you move forward, you will not feel like you need to look back. I feel great about this so far because when you go from 2+ packs a day to under 1, you are making a dent and I have to say that the understanding of the habit does help beat the problem down. Hopefully anyone that reads this will have something to offer others like myself, remove the chain
I feel your pain. I never had quite as heavy of a habit (only 3/4 - 1 pack per day) but after 21 years the ‘ritual habit’ of the whole thing is really gets entrenched in your entire life. I don’t smoke during working hours because of the stigma, and even have a generally good amount of control when by myself, but when my wife is around it’s a bear. I enjoy smoking and that power of suggestion really kills it for me. Even if I tell her not to ask me about a smoke, the gentile click of the back door lets me know what’s going on and I start fiending for the sensation, even if I have something insane like Thunder Raw in my lip. It seems to be getting a bit easier as the temperatures drop because I just don’t want to be outside at 9 degrees (F). I use snus, dip, snuff, and anything else I can get my hands on to try and drop the habit. On good days I’m down to 3 - 4 smokes. It takes a while to break the habit, just keep at it.
I was smoking 1-2 packs a day and toque quit + a flu helped me quit for about a week. After the flu was gone i smoked half a cigarette and it tasted like crap so I have not smoked a cigarette since then. Only glorious snuff.
It’s easy. You just really need to want to do it. Sorry if that sounds a bit flippant, but it’s true. Snuff makes it easier. You just replace cigarettes with snuff. I quit a 30 year, pack a day habit, 6 months after starting snuff and have never looked back. Cigarettes are so uncouth. Filthy habit.
Thank You Guy’s and this route is working for me. I tried snus and didn’t like it. I also find it hard to trust a product that was created by the cigarette companies when smoking sales started to die. Something to think about
I had a problem with snus being enough in the beginning, but now it’s really helping me a lot. At first I was reading that some people (and the US snus manufacturers recommendation) only leave their portions in for 30 min, and that just wasn’t doing it. I tried Thunder Raw which was supposed to be like some sort of nic hammer, and it wasn’t doing it either. Then, I forgot and left the portion in and I was swimming in a little while. I figured out it took 45 min to 1hr before I started to really feel it, and then I came across this chart today. I’m sure someone has posted it elsewhere, but it really confirmed that the uptake on snus is slow, but really awesome. So, I’m starting to get into a routine of snuff for my quick(ish) fix, and throw in a snus at the same time. By the time the snuff is waxing, the snus is waning and I’m actually satisfied. I’m going to have to switch to smaller portions though as I don’t want my nic needs to go up beyond where they already are. I can smoke a pack of menthols during a 3 hour stretch at a bar and be fine, but an hour with a raw portion in there and I feel half drunk. Here is the study: http://ntr.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2012/05/13/ntr.nts123.full Here is the really cool chart:
It was snus and snuff that did it for me. I used to use snuff alongside cigarettes for years, then I discovered snus and stopped smoking almost instantly, it helped that I wanted to quit smoking too. Now I have a happy balance of snuff and snus with the odd pipe now and then.
With snuff and snus I quit cigs with relative ease. Now this was with strong Swedish snus and strong snuff. American snus is awful IMO , it is the only tobacco product I have ever thrown in the trash. When I first quit I would still reach for smokes in my car as a reflex action but after about a month I did not even give them a second thought. Keep at it and you will find what you need to quit.
I’m doing quite well with the snuff. Only problem area is the morning start. Is there a snuff that goes well with coffee? A breakfast snuff?
@MattheFox Sam Gawith Black Coffee goes very well with coffee (odd that lol) I find toasts go nicely with coffee or natural snuffs, unscented good old plain tobacco, taxi red is brilliant with coffee first thing in the morning.
@MatteFox I agree w above but have to say that SG Black Coffee is frankly, to date, the ONLY real coffee flavored snuff bar none (Well, waiting on Cafe11). It does pack a little wallop and I think it has a bit of a pick me up effect. Of course that last could be a touch of wishful thinking on my part too…
Thank You Guy’s and this route is working for me. I tried snus and didn’t like it. I also find it hard to trust a product that was created by the cigarette companies when smoking sales started to die. Something to think about
Have you tried any Swedish snus at all? It’s a whole different league than the snus made by the U.S. cigarette companies. If you want to get off the smokes snus can help supply the nicotine you crave. Breaking the habit aspect of cigarettes is still the hardest part.
@crullers Only American snus. Right now as I am typing I am drinking a fine whiskey and snuffing without a urge for a smoke (cigarette that is) I would reward myself with a bowl or cigar but I don’t want to weaken myself
@MattheFox I found I needed to avoid any smoking, pipe, cigar or cigs, for about a week before I could safely smoke a pipe without starting the cig cravings. Swedish/Danish snus and snuff got me off the cigs.
I quit with snuff, and I smoked as much as you. It’s been two years now. Here was my method: 1. Purchase a very high nicotine snuff- Rooster or Bruton for me- to use straight or mix with something you like. Many of these designer snuffs are namby-pamby in the nicotine department. 2. Don’t snuff when you feel like having a snuff. Instead snuff when you feel like having a CIGARETTE, and shove as much up there as it takes to satisfy the urge. 3. ALWAYS have plenty of snuff. Never run out. If you do, you’ll be at the gas station in about 20 seconds. Well, me anyway.
I would like everyone that has posted a comment here (because I really mean this) to go look in a mirror and say… "I am a Kewl (cool if your not southern) I helped someone today!!! I really mean it. The understanding that you folks had to over come the problem to reap it’s reward is truly… “KEWL”
It was swedish snus that kicked it for me, specifically General Ekstra Sterk, Skruf Extra Stark and Oden’s Extreme to start with.
"Gotta think on a positive note on anything that uses “Odin” in it
@MattheFox Oden’s snus is my favorite then prob General, its half the price of General and more vitamin N than you will ever need (the extreme ones anyway), its tastes bloody good too, and you do feel like a God when you use the extreme ones
Just don’t lite up. A minute at a time,then and hour, then a day and if you fail try again.Cigarette smoking is physical and psychological, The nicotine can be replaced with snuff, the action has to be worked on. I just use my pipes for the mouth fixation. Works for me. I never did quit ,I am just not a slave to cancer sticks. I enjoy one ,3 or 4 times a year. I love my nicotine!