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Greetings fellow snuff-takers!

After a considerable break from my last online nasal snuff order, I find myself yearning to stock up on my favorite plain tobacco snuff. As a dedicated enthusiast of simple, unadulterated snuff, I turn to you, my fellow plain snuff aficionados, for guidance in making this important decision. So, if you were in my shoes, which snuff would you choose for a bulk order?

Here are the contenders that I’m currently torn between:

  1. Wilsons of Sharrow Plain
  2. Wilsons of Sharrow Irish 22
  3. Silver Dollar Scotch
  4. Bernard Gekachelter Virginie
  5. Viking Brown
  6. NTSU Black

Now, all of these options have graced my senses before, and I must say, they are each exquisite in their own right, making this decision particularly challenging. They are all my favorite snuffs, compared to all the snuffs I have tried during the years of snuff-taking. However, I’m looking for an everyday, all-day snuff that will satisfy my cravings and provide a delightful experience throughout the day.

So, dear snuff enthusiasts, I implore you to share your insights and help me reach a verdict. If you were to make a bulk order, which snuff would you choose as your daily companion, and more importantly, why?

Of course, I am open to suggestions outside of the options listed above. If you have come across any other plain snuff varieties that you believe deserve my attention, do not hesitate to mention them! Your collective wisdom and experiences are invaluable in aiding me on this aromatic journey.

Let the discussions begin or simply vote for what you would order!

P.S.: I am leaning more toward a fine dry one just because of the summer and the warm weather. I wouldn’t want a bulk of moist Viking, NTSU or Gekachelter Virginie sitting in the package stuck in the customs under the summer heat for days. It can take more than a month to arrive from my experience and this is the main reason I didn’t make orders the last couple of years.

M

Those are all really good options. I just got a really fresh tin of Viking Brown from Mr Snuff and it is hiring great. Highly recommend. It is stronger than Samuel Gawith Kendall Brown and the Viking Brown and Scotch Dark have both been great.

I would also highly recommend Rosinski plain snuffs like Deichgraf which is an oiled schmalzer or their Ochenskopf which is a plain brown snuff. The German tobacco is top notch and totally different than what the English brands are using. Rosinski ships direct and their snuff comes in really good packaging to preserve freshness. It is also dated and they ship very fresh snuff. The price is also great for the quality … very hard to beat.

The Rosinski has more nasal drip and I know you were looking for a fine dry and so would also highly recommend Sir Walter Scott toasted snuffs but those are not cheap. Lundy Foot, Latakia, Fifty-Fifty, or Saint James Parish.

You cannot go wrong with Irish 22 but will likely get bored of that after a while and the fine dry snuff can get tiresome.

I also got Smokers Blend from Dolakia (spelling?) And it is a in the Indian profile, oiled and easy to take plain snuff. It’s nice to try the Indian without it being so dam fine. Smokers Blend is a good compromise not to fine and not too course.

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Thank you very much my friend! I know Viking Brown is one of my favorites and I still have ~ 150g of it stocked. This and Bernard Gekachelter Virginie are favorites of mine.

I would like to try Rosinski but I wouldn’t want a Schmalzler for this purchase and all the other snuffs come in 10g and not bulk options.

As for Sir Walter Scott, with all due respect, I would never pay that much money for that little amount of snuff. I know I might be missing something great but I generally don’t care and I am not the type of snuff-taker who has to try/ buy them all.

I totally agree that the fine dry ones like Irish 22 can get me bored at some point.

As far as Smoker Blend from Dholakia, I am not appealed to even try it. I had learned that I don’t like the Indian snuffs specifically the way they alkalize them and the tobaccos they use (rustica). I prefer the regular tobacco than rustica in general. Also from my experience Indian “plain” snuffs are not plain at all. They all carry a tiny flavoring in the background that I can’t appreciate (like Snafu Plain, 6photo LA natural these stuff are not plain and not a tobacco scent I adore either). Thank you for the recommendation though!

S

I would really like to try Irish 22 and Gekachelter Virginie from that list!

M

Hi ALLex. I pretty much feel the same way you do with the Indian snuffs. I can say that the Smoker’s Blend is definitely plain but if you don’t like Indians snuffs then yeah stay away. I’m also curious what is in this blend. I don’t think it is pure rustica as it doesn’t hit that strong. I know 6 Photo has a Madras with Burley and Latakia in the blend. This Smokers Blend remind me of a Madras but just not as fine. Very buttery maybe from the ghee.

Anyways, if you have Bernard Gekachelter Virginie on the list then the Rosinski Diechgraf is very similar. It isn’t really a Schmalzer in the traditional sense like you would find from Polsch or other Bernard products. This ends up being about $21 for 100 grams compared to the Viking Brown economy bucket for $17. If you get a chance I think you would like it.

Sounds like you know what you like though and you already have a great list narrowed down.

For everyday use in bulk I might go for Irish 22 or Silver Dollar Scotch just because the toast are great, hit strong, and don’t drip as much and so can take them around town more.

C

Although I don’t have experience with a few of these snuffs, I never tire of the scent of Wilson’s Plain.

It might not have the nic-kick as the others, but, I take WoS Plain, and enjoy it without thinking about it…which, actually, might be kind of a bad thing

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@MrHanners I bet that in the Indian Smokers Blend (Dholakia) is Chopadia Tobacco (a very common Indian tobacco used in smokeless) and maybe some Rustica i guess. Madras snuffs are the only Indian ones I can appreciate but at the end of the day they are a little too much for my nose for an everyday all day snuff. I tried that with Dragon Madras and the burn and the powerful nicotine from the alkalizers got me tired and subconsciusly minimizing my pinches through out the day. Its nice for once in a while but not something I prefer.

Thanks for the suggestion of Rosinski Schmalzler! I might try this in a winter order, as for in this purchase I am not interested in schmalzler. Gekachelter Virginie isnt a schmalzler and its close to Viking Brown.

This list I made are the snuffs I would order again, the ones I really like compared to all the other ones I have tried. Ideally I would love to buy them all in bulk in the spam of the next years, but I would never buy them all together in a sort period of time.

I hear you about Irish 22 or Silver Dollar Scotch! I have some bulk jars of F&T High Dry Toast already in my storage so I think I am leaning more towards Silver Dollar Scotch. I might go with the Silver Dollar Scotch just because of the summer heat and not wanting my order to get stuck in customs under the warm summer conditions for a month or more. I think a fine dry would survive that easily while NTSU or Gekachelter or Viking might suffer some dehydration while stuck in the customs for months under the summer heat. And maybe a coarse moist bulk order in the winter for NTSU or Viking or Bernard Virginie.

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@clsmoothie I totally agree, its one of my favorites and the best one to just grab and go. Perfect all day everyday, sweet, hayish kinda barnyardy snuff. It has a quality in its aroma that reminds me of dried out NTSU Black (I had dried and grinded Ntsu black into fine dry in my past stupid experiments lol).

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@StevenSpark They are great snuffs!

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Silver Dollar is a more thrifty decision from what I have researched. Also a gem

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I believe so! I have only had 20g of it in the past (like 3 years ago) and I really enjoyed it. It kinda has a rappee kind of aroma in it if I remember right.

Silver Dollar Scotch seems to win the place for my next order. But I would like to contemplate a little more and read more opinions from snuff-takers.

@clsmoothie When was the last time you had Silver Dollar Scotch? I would love it if you can share your review or opinion about it.

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Remember reading this post by @Demigros

And bought a 10g tin, which is funny now that I think about it. After that tin, I bought two 25g tins – one of which I have been enjoying this evening (coincidentally, before reading your post).

Straight leather as per my nose, “moreish” as you euros/brits like to say. Nice fine-ish grind. I’ve been carrying it in my ebike satchel as of this summer. Decent nic and is nice to pinch.

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@clsmoothie Thank you! Yeah that matches what I remember about it. I remember really liking it because it kinda smelled like a toast and a rappee together (faint rappee aroma in the background).

V

Hi @ALLex! It would be too hard of a task to opt for just one for me, but after thinking for a while one thing has come to mind, which might help you to make a choice. I’m pretty sure that WoS plastic drums (250 and 500 g) are airtight enough to preserve factory moisture content even under the worst circumstances (like a month or even longer in customs warehouse during the heatwaves).

WoS drums can be ordered from Toque, too (reaching out to Roderick; he orders drums from WoS once in a month, you can find more info on his forum and webstore, selecting WoS category). If you are hesitating about the drum container, 500 g WoS Rod ships in vac-sealed plastic bags (just took a look, and if got it right, only 250 g WoS-things R ships in actual drums - “tubs and pouches are a special order that is placed on the 14th and 25th of the month and will be sent the following week.
250g tubs do not qualify for free shipping due to their size”;


).

All said, worth stocking on GV, too. Chances are Bernard will stay in business, but as you know, there’s some uncertainty about it. And if you order from Germany, delivery wouldn’t take that long as from the outside of the EU, perhaps.

Haven’t tried Deichgraf, but got an impression it’s not a schmalzler. Well, at least not a sweet or flavoured one. @MrHanners, curious, how would you rate oil content - is it on a par to Poschl’s and Bernard schmalzlers (about 16% mineral oil), or more similar to just slightly oiled snuff, like Gekachelter (6-7% oil; i. e., the amount small enough for oil not to be noticeable)?

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@volunge Thank you for your reply my friend and for the WoS and Toque info.

Bernard Gekachelter Virginie is something I would stock for sure. I still have 3 boxes of it but with the rate I am snuffing this, they are gonna be empty by autumn/ winter. I would do a GV order sooner or later for sure. I love the smoky barnyard and traditional aroma of it, never fails to do the job. The aroma reminds me of countryside with sheep that left their poop on the ground. But in a nice nostalgic way lol.

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On another note, NTSU Black used to be such a cheap snuff… and now it feels like luxury to buy a bulk amount of it.

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I have a 30g sachet of Deichgraf open at the moment (packing date of 2/23) that was part of a large order I made from Rene earlier this year. It is, in my mind at least, very much a schmalzler, albeit a “light” one. It has the classic, unmistakable schmalzler scent profile along with a typical schmalzler grind and color. It is oiled, although not heavily. It comes across to me as a “lighter” version of his Frankfurter. I never use schmalzlers in high summer as they are much more suited to cool weather (beautiful in autumn), but for some reason this one works during the summer season, especially sitting outside in the later evenings.

D

Of the list, perhaps two?: one fine and dry, and one coarser and dark? That way, you have both options available to you, depending on mood:

  1. WoS Irish 22 or SD Scotch (different from one another, but same overall genre and equally fantastic).
  2. Bernard GV or Viking Brown (a bit closer in overall character to each other, but different enough).

To be honest with you, I would be hard pressed to choose just two of these four myself though, as they are all excellent.

T

I would say WoS Irish no.22. I generally like this snuff anyway but as it ages it does develop different notes. I transferred mine to a glass jar and left it for about five years, taking the odd pinch now and then, but it developed a really rich butter like chocolate notes after a period of time.

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@Demigros Thank you very much for your suggestion. SD Scotch and a coarse one sounds right. I totally agree they are all excellent snuffs. I had all of them in bulks through the years, except SD Scotch which I only had a small amount but enjoyed it a lot. I still have some ~200g of each F&T HDT, Viking Brown & Black Rappee, Gekachelter Virginie and ~5 pinches of NTSU Black in storage.
The list is actually my favorite snuffs. I haven’t had the chance to spend much time with SD Scotch but I remember liking it, so I might go with it.

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@Tc2642 Toasts are so simple and nice and can be an all day everyday snuff for me. I totally agree I had bought some 400g F&T HDT before Covid and I still have ~200g of it in glass jar. It develops an aroma if stored in glass, that when I open the jar after a hiatus the aroma of HDT had developed some dark aroma note that reminds me almost the characteristic earth aroma of the Viking plain snuffs. Irish no22 in 500g would be awesome.

D

For what it might be worth, I personally have been quite impressed with the SD Scotch and keep it in my regular rotation (alongside F&T HDT and WoS Irish No. 22). For whatever reason, it always strikes me as being a combination of a traditional American plain scotch (à la Bruton or W.E. Garrett Classic) and a classic British toast (à la F&T HDT or WoS Irish No. 22), melding the best characteristics of both into a delectable whole. That is to say, it has a smoky core (although much more subdued than an American scotch, thankfully) along with the soft, medium fine / slightly fine grind of a more traditional British toast-style snuff (although with a bit more moisture, which is actually walnut oil in this case apparently). It is a solid medium in strength.

Anyways, given your tastes and previous experience with it I would think it is one that you will likely be glad to have on hand.

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@Demigros Yeah SD Scotch seems to be the winner for this order. Thank you very much for your detailed review.

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Guys thank you for all the replies, help and suggestions!

I went with the Silver Dollar Scotch.

F

I will be looking forward to your review of the scotch. I wonder if it’s as strong as Garrett snuff, which I can’t find around here now but did try it more than 20 years ago. Blew my head off because I had no idea what I was doing with snuff.

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@FLA I will write a review and post some pictures of the snuff here, when it’ll arrive. Unfortunately, I always wanted but never had the chance to try an American Scotch snuff like Garrett, Bruton etc. so I can’t do a straight comparison. Only “scotch” I had was Silver Dollar Scotch by Toque. I will do my best describing it in the review.

B

It’s really nice imo. Been enjoying lately aswell.
When I make my own snuff soon and use fire cured I hope it somewhat resembles it lol

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@Blergs I agree with you my friend, it is a really good snuff. I kinda remember it having a faint Rappee type of aroma in the nose, I wonder if thats the case now that I will try it again after all those years.

Personally, from my snuff-making experience and from playing with fire cured tobaccos, I don’t believe SD Scotch has any fire cured tobacco in it. I believe it contains only flue cured.

Anyway, I remember when I had SD Scotch last time my thoughts was “That’s a proper snuff”.

Now the waiting game begins. I will update this post when I’ll receive my order.

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Greetings, my fellow snuff takers,

After what felt like a snuff odyssey spanning 25-something business days, I was beginning to wonder if my cherished snuff order had decided to embark on a world tour of its own! But, lo and behold, it has finally made its triumphant return to my eager nostrils. The Toque order had finally arrived a week ago.

Silver Dollar Scotch: Initially, this snuff presented itself with all the subtlety of a fine dry toast, with less buttery, and more savory aroma. It felt like just another fine dry toast but without so much butter and more of a savory aroma. At the beginning it almost felt like I was snuffing nothing with a whiff of something in the background. However, after a week of quality time together, this snuff’s true character is now easier to pick up by my now-seasoned with this snuff nose.

I can now distinctly pick up the tobacco aroma within Silver Dollar Scotch, and, to my delight, it has a background aroma quality that’s familiar to me and reminds me the aromas of Kendal tobacco, such as Viking Brown, Scotch Dark or even Rappee. This familiar aroma becomes particularly apparent in the backdrip.

Now, to clarify, this snuff isn’t one to wallop you with a pungent tobacco aroma. Instead, it retains a subtlety as someone would expect from Toque’s or most Brands fine dry plain snuffs. It’s somewhat like my experience with Toasts, where it started off milder an feeling like they smell like nothing but, with time, my nose became well-acquainted with its unique aromas.

In terms of nicotine content, Silver Dollar Scotch comfortably occupies the medium range, and owing to its fine dry grind, it occasionally delivers a sensation akin to a slightly mightier hit. To me, it’s like a “darker” or “more brown” toast in terms of its aromas, with a whiff of Kendal fermented tobacco in the background after some time in the nose or in the backdrip. It’s enjoyable, although I wouldn’t necessarily label it as a snuff to rave about. It’s a nice plain fine dry toasty snuff. While it may not be a snuff that leaves you speechless, it certainly holds its own in the realm of plain toasty snuffs.

P.S.: I’ll be sharing pictures of the dust once I return home later today.

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I’m having some Silver Dollar Scotch right now and i find it similar to SWS Lundy Foot but with less toastiness. As a daily Cheetah user I can say its giving me that familiar rustica hit more than a HDT type toast/butteriness whereas Lundy Foot has both in about equal measure.

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If you like Rustica hit, then definitely try the dragon madras. Wish I had a kg of it right now .
I’m enjoying cheeta too. I’m new to both. But if I had to pick one of the two it’s dragon madras imo.
I think I’m going to mix them actually. Sounds nice

M

Viking Blonde is a great plain snuff similar to Wilson’s Plain, but with a slightly different character. It’s not a toast, but you can toast it in the oven if you’re careful with the time and temperature.

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@Blergs I already have a full 100g tin and a half empty one of Janta Dragon Madras from some years ago when it first came out. I have sniffed 4 x 100g Dragon Madras in the past, its a good strong satisfying fine snuff but I am not so crazy about it. Its nice for here and there but sometimes it feels like too much, like I am burning my nose with this snuff.

I have around half kilo of Cheeta too, from back in the day. Its nice for what it is, a strong Indian white plain snuff. I sniff it here and there.

Both good snuffs which I already have in my collection, but personally I am not so crazy about them.

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@mrmanos Viking Blonde is an interesting one, I always wanted to try this but I always fell in the trap of ordering their darker offerings (Viking Brown, Dark Rappee, Scotch Dark). I will try to include the Blonde in a future order, seems like a clean natural snuff.

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They’re nice that’s for sure. Moreso the dragon madras imo.
We’ll see in time how I end up feeling on the frequency of using them, but at the moment I’m really enjoying the Dragon daily ( not all day only but a couple pinches here and there throughout the day) . I take smaller pinches than most others though, mostly. I’ll definitely get it again or something similar.
I like having say a pinch of dragon, then next 2-3 something else, and repeat, I’m finding myself doing.
The cheeta isn’t near at high nic as it, but higher than many it seems. That I take bigger pinches and bit more frequently and will go with it for a 2-4hrs here and there.
Not disappointed with them. The cheeta I’ve gotten used to taking a bit more (very fine, almost like starch powder haha) so enjoying. Not super special or anything.
Have about 150g. When about done I’ll see of maybe getting more

I’ll probably try adding some coconut oil to 10g alkalized Toque Rustica and compare to the dragon.
It’d be easier to order Toque since my main, and customs issues/fees with S .

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@Blergs Why not add a small amount of pure ghee in a small amount, lets say 10g, of Toque Rustica? I guess that would be closer to Dragon Madras. I have thought of making some homemade Madras with Toque Rustica and Ghee in the past but never found the time to try and make it actually.
Cheers brother!

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I may try a little vegan margarine.
Vegan 20+ yrs. Only exception I’ve made was the dragon madras (I suppose/hope since the cow is considered holy there, that it’s treated better than everywhere else)
If/when I do I’ll post up

C

Not sure if this counts as plain enough but recently happened upon Barleywine from Toque’s Artisan range and absolutely loving it.

M

It’s a pleasant surprise from the dark Vikings. Not toasted but I have toasted small amounts in the oven recently and it picks up a nice slight burnt flavor.

C

I’m late to the party but I’ve found SG KB Original is a snuff I can use all day without stress. Easy to take with a very subtle flavour. If I want more muscle then WoS Brunswick Black Rappee. I usually carry round a box of each.