I know this varies greatly by individual, but I’ve been reading through back threads about how much snuff is consumed. Would saying a 10g tin lasts 2 or 3 days be about right for a moderate to heavy use snuff-taker?
That seems like a lot. I go through about 10g a week and consider myself a fairly heavy user.
10g=1 week for me. Give or take. I could see using 10g in a few days and I’m sure some do.
Yeah, sounds like really heavy use to me. I keep rotating all my snuffs so I cant really keep track. Therefore its usually quite hard to finish a tin, especially when my collection grows larger and I try not to disrespect any of them haha.
I have never emptied a tin. Though I rotate tins, and some days may not snuff. I honestly think 1 50g tin would last my lifetime.
and to think Napoleon took a kg of snuff in a week! Wasn’t that who that was? My memory isn’t what it once was…
So in terms of US users finance, we’re looking at maybe a $5.00 a week habit as opposed to $35 for 7 packs of cigs. That’s excellent! An 85% decrease in expenditure.
…and that’s probably a fairly conservative estimate!
I’ve been snuffing for about 4 years now and have yet to use more than 5g a week. This might be due in part to rotation.
I have no clue how much I take. I rotate snuffs fairly often, too. The only constant in my use is Tom Buck. I use it everyday.
I use about 15g a week on average.
Never really took the time to measure, but I’d say 0.5 to 4 grams per day.
I take about 3g a day. Stefan
With a 10 gr. tin, I think I’ll survive about 3 weeks. But I’m still smoking now, and want to give that up. Then I will use more…
when I was using mcrystals o&g exclusively I was using an extra large tin a week so that gives an indication to my use must be 25g.
Yeah 10g every 2-3 days seems like a HEAVY user. I rotate fairly regularly so it’s tough to tell. It would probably be more like 4 or 5 days. P.S. theratroom: McChrystal’s extra large tins are 21g. Perhaps when my next Toque order comes in the mail I will try this. I could definitely use only Toque Original until a 10g tin is gone.
I use barely a gram a week at most lol. The most I’ve used is 5g in 2 weeks with ozona raspberry. 3g a day seems heavy I think it partly depends on how much you use with each pinch toasts I take probably 1/5 as much as something like Gleischerpris.
Thanks for the info jazzi_mike
I filled a toque small flask about 3 weeks ago and It’ll be done either today or tomorrow. Not sure how much they hold. ( i’ve heard 7-8 grams?) But divided by 3 weeks = my average consumption per week. (7.5 / 3 = 2.5g/week.) Now that is my morning to afternoon snuff. At the end of the day I’ve got another tin on the coffee table. That is a 25 gram tin, and I must have 4-5 pinches from that every night. So maybe I average 3-4 grams per week? hows that for a math problem?
50 grams lasts me a couple months at least, with daily use.
Roughly how much does each compartment in a PC double box hold? My weekly consumption is probably something like that amount, maybe a little more.
I snuff pretty much all through the day I still haven’t made it through a 25 gr that I got a couple months ago. Granted that I use some other snuffs but I use that tin a good deal…so I would say 10grams a day would be called vaccuum snuffing. LOL
Same here with the rotation. I empty tins from time to time but cant track them properly. Dont know and somehow i dont care - i mean, how much could i take before bad things start to happen ? A lot i guess. Anyway, i think i have 0,5 - 1,5 g/per Day. (Right now it is S&G Wild Duck)
As others have mentioned, I rotate tins often, so it’s hard to guess how much I’m using in a given period of time. I’d estimate (very roughly) somewhere between 1-2g per day, probably closer to 1.
Probably close to 1g/day or a bit more. I like to take nice sized pinches for maximum effect.
My dear people, what are you talking about? My normal intake on average is 5g a day. And, I’m pretty sure we have members who take way more than that!! Don’t be shy, USE the stuff.
"Would saying a 10g tin lasts 2 or 3 days be about right for a moderate to heavy use snuff-taker? " It depends on the snuff. It’s easier to get through coarse moist snuff, say eight to ten grams daily, then very fine pungent snuff. Ten grams of the latter should certainly last the moderate user several days. My snuff-taking increased about four-fold in 1995 when I gave up cigars. Including miscellaneous 25 gram tins, I purchase five lbs of snuff (4.5lb in bulk) every eight months or so and, at around 8 to 9.5 grams daily, consider myself a heavy user. The relative who introduced me to snuff in 1959 bought the old 1/2lb tin of Fribourg & Treyer monthly - and still found time to smoke numerous Havana cigars. He departed this life one year shy of his centenary and snuffed and smoked cigars right to the end. From the truly miniscule amounts some folk here take they hardly qualify as snuff-takers. Always grasp as much snuff as you can hold from a deep broad box and repeat the operation every ten minutes or so. Gros is the snuff of choice for heavy and happy indulgence.
"My dear people, what are you talking about? My normal intake on average is 5g a day. And, I’m pretty sure we have members who take way more than that!! Don’t be shy, USE the stuff. " Well said, Pieter. I had no idea so-called snuffers took such tiny quantities. I believe many people here are interested in snuff as a sort of hobby, collecting many varieties in small amounts to build collections, instead of hard-core indulgence.
Well, my snuff use just jumped after I ran out of snus. I went from emptying out a PC snuffbox over the course of a week, to emptying it over night.
@PhilipS “so-called snuffers” *chortle*
@PhilipS: With the greatest respect, I use what seems to be the right amount for me. I’m sorry, but that attitude smacks a little of machismo to me. I do have a collection, partly for the sake of it but isn’t that also how one finds the snuff that suits them, by trying many different types? And isn’t that a part of what makes snuff taking attractive to us all, rather than sticking to one brand of cigarette, for example? I was never a massively heavy smoker, so why I should be expected to take grams and grams of snuff a day escapes me. I don’t treat it a competition; I must admit when I started, most people (as they seem to do now) take a lot more and I felt inadequate, a bit of a fraud, as if I wasn’t taking it seriously enough. Now I’m confident enough take what I please and hang the begrudgers. That said, my perceived moderate intake could also be due to my current preference for toasts, as you say, the moister, coarser snuffs are indeed much easier to take in greater quantities.
For the sake of peace he did mention that toasts go by much slower then coarse ground snuffs. What I was going to say before that is I do find if funny that people are calling these large amounts. I consider myself to be snuffing lightly when I go through 2-3 grams a day. Other thought might explain why some people are still smoking cigs. Though the key is enjoyment don’t worry about too little too much. The size of a pinch isn’t the enjoyment. The wonderfull wonderfull snuff is the enjoyment.
i think, for those like Shiki and others trying to fight off cigarettes … a higher volume of snuff taking would be the norm. i also think for those like toffeenose, it is the perfect extracurricular activity that offers many varieties and satisfies some lighter cravings. i fall into both camps, i think, and have a bit of the TAD … but i also am utilitarian … and think i am in search of a favorite in order to make those monthly buys, a la PhilipS, in bulk … all this TAD, for me at least, is in search of a staple — two or three or four. i came to snuff through snus, and still being unable to fight off cigarettes. i am finding it the best alternative of all of possible choices. i am happy to collect and to consume!! back on thread topic … i think i am working through 2+ grams a day — but if i ever snuffed 10+ grams a day — i wouldn’t consider it too much or too little.
@bob: “Though the key is enjoyment don’t worry about too little too much. The size of a pinch isn’t the enjoyment. The wonderfull wonderfull snuff is the enjoyment.” Exactly. I totally agree. Perhaps that’s what I should have said in the first place. And for the record, I really just meant to state my opinion, not to disrespect, antagonize or start a row with anyone on the forum. OK, I’m done now. Goodnight, chaps.
Well, if my scale is correct a small smashbox filled with a finer snuff like Toque Quit, or the consistancy of a scotch, weighs roughly 7-8 grams, for folks to get a reference. Some days I have to push myself to get going and other days I hit her pretty hard right out of bed and go through a smash box. Everyone’s different, I suppose. I just have a couple large drums of Quit I need to get through before I croak, so I’m kinder on a schedule here, friends.
I just snuff when I want to. Sometimes a lay off it for hours, then other times I really hit it. It’s just as my mind feels, and takes me.
@toffeenose - Well said. I agree with your response to @PhilipS concerning his posts in this thread. @PhilipS comments “from the truly miniscule amounts some folk here take they hardly qualify as snuff-takers” and referring to “so-called snuffers taking tiny quantities” are very patronising and condescending. Surely everyone interested in snuff should be made to feel welcome on this forum, regardless of how much they take and what kinds they like.
Just let it pass, good snuffers, as I said earlier I just snuff when I want to. No medals for getting the most up the nose.
@snuffhead … funny … “No medals for getting the most up the nose.”
@ snuffbrant, and no Brownie Point’s, LOL!
@SnuffHead No medals… *grin* For myself, I take enough to suit my needs. I rather prefer a milder nic hit and a larger pinch since it stays with me longer.
i prefer a huge nic hit and a huge pinch!
I love snuff. *edited bc of its negative content.*
"“from the truly miniscule amounts some folk here take they hardly qualify as snuff-takers” and referring to “so-called snuffers taking tiny quantities” are very patronising and condescending. Surely everyone interested in snuff should be made to feel welcome on this forum, regardless of how much they take and what kinds they like. " Yes, indeed. Please don’t feel patronised on my account, Sloth. My teasing is always only playful and I, too, was a moderate user until my daily twenty Villiger habit ceased in 1995. (1 gram daily, 50 grams in a lifetime … damn hobbyists)
@transistor: While I do appreciate your support for my end of the discussion, please can you refrain from name-calling and casting aspersions at @PhilipS; that really wasn’t my intention and is not the way we do things on this forum. Everyone deserves to be treated with respect, whether one agrees or disagrees with their opinion. PhilipS is a respected member and long term snuffer with a wealth of knowledge and experience that I and many others continue to benefit from. We must learn to be able to disagree without being disagreeable.
You’re right I’m sorry. I’m gonna get rid of that post. I’m really sorry @phillipS , @toffeenose , and everyone else. I’m normally a very nice person, I read that really early this morning and took offense to it when I really shouldn’t have. I don’t like it when I think someone’s being rude to people I consider my friends… I sincerely apologize guys.
For a very long time I couldn’t see how it was possible to ever finish a tin, now I could very easily use 10g in a day and snuff is now my main supplier of vitamin N. Maybe heavy use comes in time and is linked to how your other tobacco habits/addictions are going, it doesn’t really matter. One thing is certain; there is no set amount that is right or wrong. There are no rules with this thing, use what you are comfortable with - 10g a day or 10g a year; its just a personal thing and concepts like ‘heavy use’ are completely subjective anyway.
Whatever you said, Transistor, I’m sure there is no need for apology - especially to an old reprobate like myself. Nevertheless, if emoticon images were available, a smiling face after my comments would show nothing malicious was intended - only playful amusement at the disparity between some members’ vast hoards and the tiny amounts actually consumed. (Other experienced snuffers must have had a laugh reading these confessions too). It might surprise some, but for the heavier coarse moist snuffs eight to ten grams is really not excessive; I’ve known schmalzer users in Germany consume very large amounts indeed. Honest. It has been said by some wise individual that the best things in life are either illegal, immoral or fattening. However, being no Asmodeus, the sage didn’t account for snuff. Here is a vice that allows maximum exploitation without a fine or prison, a lecture from the confessional box or censure from a weight-watchers club. So, if you feel the need for more snuff induced nicotine then don’t shy away thinking that more than two or three grams daily is somehow excessive because, believe me, it isn’t.
@philipS I completely agree. MY consumption is simply based on my craving at the time.
“PhilipS is a respected member and long term snuffer with a wealth of knowledge and experience that I and many others continue to benefit from.” Why, thank you for your kind words, young lady. You make me blush.
@PhilipS: Please don’t mention it, you are indeed an ‘elder statesman’ (if I may use the phrase without offence) of snuff in our community, I’m sure others would agree. In fact, I should apologise for not getting the humour behind your post - I’m afraid I was rather tired and humourless at the time. Anyway, onwards and upwards!
Bah, I thought there was going to be a fight, but everyone’s just being nice again! Seriously though, like others, perhaps I took @PhilipS too literally when I responded to it, when the comments were intended to be a bit of cheeky banter…! Back on topic, I don’t know what my average consumption of snuff is… Sometimes it seems like loads, but compared to some peeps here it’s not much at all, however I still smoke cigs as well (although smoking is a bit less since I got back into snuff several months ago, after a few years away from it).
Difficult to get the inflection behind faceless type, we all tend to take things in the wrong way sometime.
Gah I hate the internet at times- it can turn some of the most kind people into faceless jerks without them even intending it. We need some smileys and whatnot
aahh, just use a or a lol or a INMHO, seems to work out usually!
I usally just remind everyone that I hate them regularly, then anything I say is seen through that filter which makes people feel like I’am being nice considering that I hate everyone. Of course I kid.
LOL @bob
That works too.
Yesterday I estimated my daily use. It’s around 1g. I consider myself a moderate user: I take dry and fine snuff quite often but in small doses, as I prefer smaller pinches. So taking it into account I think that 10g in 2-3 days, especially of coarser snuff, is moderate to heavy use. Nevertheless, several days ago I read a fragment of an old book about snuff (I don’t remember the title but it was one of the books from the literature thread on the forum) where it was stated that moderate-to-heavy use of snuff was around one ounce a day, whereas in other book it was considered heavy use.
@mrorz - Blimey, for those books to say one ounce of snuff a day, that’s about 28 grams…?! That’s certainly heavy use! Surely one would need to take extraordinarily large pinches, pretty much constantly, in order to make up that amount on a daily basis. There would barely be time left for doing anything else…
Inspired by this thread I took my biggest pinch ever… it was the most enjoyable easiest to take pinch I ever took. I’m happy I did it but now I might actually need to buy replacement snuff instead of just adding to the collection. So in summation don’t be afraid to dig in and take a good hefty does of snuff if you please. DISCLAIMER: :), ;), LOL, Imho, and I hate everyone as well. But seriously,
@johndeere89 I, too, took tiny pinches until I tried a (what I now see as) normal sized pinch. was blown away that it was actually easier to take and the flavor came in a lot better as well.
Absolutely, most people soon realise that a big pinch not only does not irritate but gives a lot more flavour and pleasure. Prof Phillips Grifiths talks about this on his website and the way that he used to win bets based on getting people to take big pinches. Its counter-intuitive and maybe some people just never do it; certainly I took small pinches for a long time at the start of my snuff use. Its probably the key to the big differences in amounts that members use. I don’t think it quite holds out for HDT’s and Scotch snuffs though; a massive pinch of one of those still blows my head off.
@Sloth, I guess it was a book about the history of Fribourg & Treyer that cited an anecdote about one of the antecedent owners, who used to refill his huge snuffbox in the morning, then again during the day and bring home some more snuff in a bag in case of running out at night.
Found it! “Half an ounce per day for individual use would possibly be a very moderate allowance, and below the average. The last snuff-taker of consequence connected with the Firm filled his box twice a day, putting in over an ounce each time. In addition to this he would take away a small quantity each night, packed in tinfoil, to prevent any fear of running short. He, however, took snuff to excess and very frequently handed his snuff-box to friends.” Goerge Evans, “The Old Snuff House of Fribourg & Treyer”, page 17.
@mrorz - Thanks for the quote, it’s interesting to read little bits of snuff history.
1 oz a day is insane… that seems like you’d be taking a huge pinch every couple minutes
I think some of the variance in snuff consumption is likely due to some snuffers also getting nicotine from other sources. I may only insufflate a gram of snuff per day, but I use somewhere around 10 grams of snus per day, if not more. Oral or nasal, however, it’s all snuff. On top of that, I occasionally smoke a pipe or a cigarette. So I probably get about the same amount of nicotine daily as a heavy snuffer who uses nasal snuff exclusively.
i need to up my intake
@mroz … what date was that book written? in considering it, if my math is correct … is that 25 - 30 grams? daily? i.e. an entire 25g tin? quite the addiction, if so… can’t imagine snuffing my entire SG 25g Irish D Light in a day … wow. i probably, when exclusively snuffing(no snus or cigs), take two pea size piles per nostril every 30 minutes or so - but that gets me to 2 grams or so … i am with Pike Mopers, that example seems excessive and is probably every couple of minutes, as well as the passing around of the snuff to friends.
It is from 1921. It can be found here: http://www.archive.org/details/oldsnuffhouseoff00evaniala I encourage reading its first pages, as they contain some interesting facts and anecdotes. @snuffbrant, you are right about him being keen on passing snuffbox to friends. The next sentence, after those I posted, mentions that. Nonetheless, even if we assume that one of those two ounce went to his friends, one ounce of daily usage remains and that is a lot!
@Johndeere89 whats up mate? havent seen you in a while, how are those crops doing?
@mroz thanks for that link! searching for “snuff” in the text section of Archive.org brings up all kinds of goodies! Thank god I have an ereader!
The credits should go to @Alex. He is the one who listed this book in Snuff Literature thread (http://snuffhouse.org/discussion/13/snuff-literature). I just found enough time to read it
Thanks for the tip bigger pinches do work even if it’s counter intuitive.
@goldenboy OT- been busy man not able to get on as much as id like. Garden is just getting started this year but our newest project is raising ducks for meat. Seems to be a promising market in my area but there are some specific obstacles when processing ducks that we need to figure out. But when the time come ill just take a big fat pinch of snuff and get er done!
That book certainly is fascinating, particularly the comments about the old styles of snuff being un-reproduceable, even at the relatively early date that it was published. Interesting that the bulk of fine snuff made in the hey-day was almost all as a result of blending fine tobacco, not from making a ‘flour’ that was then scented. I wonder if in some dark attic somewhere there hangs an old frock coat with a snuff box filled with original, unrepeatable FandT?
I go through about half a pound a month, somewhere between 5-10 grams a day depending on coarseness. I know when I first started, I was worried about using too much but with some gentle re-assurance of some longtime members on here, as well as experience finding snuffs I really like, I moved past that concern and used as much as I was comfortable with. I am also an ex-smoker (just passed the year mark) and I attribute a lot to that.
now that I am jobless and essentially sitting around all day making music and waiting for the next semester of college to start, I am using probably close to 5 to 8 grams per day. I finished a 5g of Tom Buck in 2 days and that wasn’t even the only snuff I was using.
I took some big pinches of Spanish Gem and must confess… it did increase the flavor and nic hit quite a bit, with little irritation. More of a longer drawn out inhale works better for me than the quicker short sniffs I was using with the smaller pinches.
I snuff fairly often, when I’m playing online, it’s almost non-stop, and every day, yet I have never never emptied a tin. I do revolve my tins though. And my pinches are maybe pea sized.
@tom502 I’m amazed at how little you go through. I burned through a 45g Super Chetak tin in about 2 1/2 weeks.
I just don’t see how it’s done, I even make decent lines of it. I guess it’s best for me though.