I was just daydreaming as I am wont to do from time to time and I began to wonder…‘Am I ready for the day that my personal ‘reserve’ dries up?’ about went into shiver fits. I am not talking about you know, big brother coming to root out my treasures so much as much more likely culprits like, running out of cash, loss of job, changing ‘cultural morays’, natural disaster (think fire or like happend with Hurricane Sandy…flooding), or even worse, what if my MD said those words ‘You have to cut out the snuff if you know whats good for you!!!’. Well, that brought me out of the land of ‘semi-nod’ and made me think… Am I ready??? Are You???

Reminder to self: Put snuff in hurricane / tsunami kit. I AM ready, but I know I will not be able to satisfactorily fortify my current location. Besides that, getting stuck away from the stash is a real concern. I am prepared with the knowledge of snuff making. With most intricate details ranging from making snuff with used cigarettes (most desperate) to farming / gathering techniques including acceptable plant substitutes. Honestly though doomed is doomed, so knowledge of nicotine withdrawal symptoms and remedies is also quite valuable.

Ahh, those little jems of wisdom. Simply MUST review old sections on snuff making, storage, tidbits on stretching interspersed with a bit of smoozing from time to time. Then of course there is the “snuff shelter” where I can lock myself to get away from the craziness around me…

Need…lots of…watertight…containers…

I am not worried.I have more enough tobacco then I can use in a life time, and add to it often. I just need a extra large fire proof safe or dozen

Relax. You can’t be prepared for _all_ contingencies so why get all congested?

Well, I just got 400g of Kailash, so I think I’m prepared…and since I live in an area prone to major earthquakes, tsunamis, and volcanic eruptions, it’s good to be prepared:)

I like to think I have a decent stash at the moment. One of these days I will inventory and see what I have weight wise but just stopped at a shop and picked up about 3/4lb of various Scotches. Nice thing about them is they age well if stored with the least bit of care.

I’ve got a goodly sized snuff cache at this point that should hopefully last for awhile. I could loot the tobacco shops and should be able to make a fairly decent snuff if the need arrises, but I guess I could just try to ween myself off with the snuff I already have. Or snuff other things, like coffee… Any excuse to stockpile, though, is good by me!

Luckily in Montana we really don’t have to worry about flooding but this thread makes ya think. You never can be to safe when it comes to snuff. Looks like I might need to invest in a couple things to be sure. With Montana winters there is always the chance of pipes freezing and busting so it water tight containers are in my future. Oh and stocking up on ammo cuz if the world starts to end in December I need to be sure I can fight off the zombie hordes after my snuff supply. 8-X

I’m pretty well prepared. I have enough where if I had to start growing my own tobacco I could age my crop for years before I had to make snuff out of it.

I’ve got about 16 pounds put away. I’m not really thinking lifetime supply because I don’t really intend to use it til the very end. I’ve got just over 90 pounds of pipe tobacco and I have about 8 pounds to go to a projected lifetime supply. You’ll have to pry my pipe from my cold, dead fingers before I give up the pipe.

I’d say I currently have enough snuff to last me like 20 years and there’s still snuff I need to get. I’m almost out of Dragun and a bunch of other snuff that needs to be restocked soon and there’s a bunch of new snuffs I’ve still got to try, it never ends.

I have a couple years of snuff in the stash. I have about 2 months of pipe tobacco, if the zombie hordes arrive. ( I figure I’d have to stop at one bowl a day to make it that far.) Snus I have about a month. I do have 2 large jars of Dragun sitting very close to my bug out bag. I’m in Ohio so the odds of something happening that forces me to leave my stash for more than a few days are quite slim. Anything that forces me to leave for longer than that will likely mean nicotine will be low on my priorities list.

I reckon I have 2+years supply. If push comes to shove I’ll be down to the big-ass can of Bruton I bought in NC a while back. That’s a good three to four months right there. Feels kinda nice, now I think about it. With cigs I rarely had more than a day or two’s supply.

Recent talk by EU officials about a blanket ban on smokeless tobacco has made me a bit jittery, so I have stepped up my snuff cellaring. I am at 7.5 kilos now and am aiming for 20 kilos eventually. I reckon that would set me up for life. I smoke a pipe too, but I don’t think smoking tobacco is going anywhere for the moment. My pipe tobacco cellar isn’t much to look at, in any case!

Hopefully the EU will collapse before they even attempt to ban snuff. Even if they did manage to do that then presumably here in the UK we would still be able to get it direct from - in no particular order - SG, GH, Toque, WoS, JH Wilsons and Abraxas. If necessary I would take a weeks holiday in Kendal, Sharrow and Berwick and do some very serious stocking up. I don’t think it is anything to seriously worry about although a weeks holiday in Kendal would be good anyway. I was planning on going earlier this year but just didn’t have time to fit it in. Hopefully next year.

@chris Well no, if they ban it then snuff would become illegal in the UK, since UK is a member state of the EU. Unless of course the UK decides to push back on the legislation in question. However, it hasn’t done that yet on any piece of anti-tobacco legislation. In fact, policies like the smoking ban and covered tobacco displays have been implemented in the UK well in advance of other EU member states. I am not trying to scare-monger, and I very much hope you are right, but the odds of a British government (of any political party) risking its EU membership over a tobacco control policy seem highly unlikely to me. So go on that holiday to Kendal :)>-

I doubt the British government will sit back and allow the EU to force 300 year old British companies out of business

@barredbenny Sorry I misunderstood you. I thought the ban you referred to was to prevent sales over the internet as opposed to banning it completely. If they are trying for a complete ban then I can only hope that @n9inchnails is correct. We are talking about some very historic companies so one could only hope that the government would show a bit of backbone. Having said that I have seen photos of Samuel Gawith’s pipe tobacco production lines and it looks like they only employ a few people so I presume the other companies are the same. On that basis the government would not be bothered about the employment issues. But given that the government does not tax snuff - on the basis of advice from health “experts” who confirm that it is basically harmless compared to other forms of tobacco use - they would have a hard job arguing the basis of any ban. The whole thing is just pressure from large pharmaceutical companies who want to push expensive patches, etc rather than have people get off cigs by using very cheap snuff. I would hope all the snuff manufacturers would get together and lobby the government on the basis of it being a very cheap and harmless form of nicotine replacement therapy. I would certainly put some serious pressure on my local MP.

Yeah, I agree and see what you guys are saying… is “corruption” the best term to use here? It’d be nice if things wouldn’t be going in the wrong direction. (is that too political? pardon me if so…)

The problem here is the EU is trying to ban oral tobacco. The downside is to make it sound “fair” they have to talk about smokeless tobacco which catches nasal snuff in passing. Sort of like how they complain about cig smokers, but feel the need to lump in cigar and pipe smokers so it looks like they aren’t picking on just one form of smoking. Not just the politicians, but the anti tobacco forces as well.

@Mr_O Yes that would seem like the exact word to use here… @chris @n9inchnails I hope so too, but the tobacco control lobby is pretty aggressive. Former tobacco commissioner Dalli has admitted that his intention was to ban all smokeless tobacco as part of the new EU tobacco directive, effectively extending the snus ban to snuff and e-cigarettes. Now, he has been sacked for corruption but I take this as writing on the wall that some high placed people in the EU are moving against snuff. See here: http://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/more-dalli-and-snusgate.html (Mods, if you consider this post to political, by all means remove it. I just thought it would be of interest to members. It is not my intention to cause debates about the merits of the EU, just to list what is factually going on in policies that concern snuff.)

Political facts are ok to post, at least when it concerns tobacco issues. Just keep the opinions minimal and tempered.

Luckily in Montana we really don’t have to worry about flooding but this thread makes ya think. You never can be to safe when it comes to snuff. Looks like I might need to invest in a couple things to be sure. With Montana winters there is always the chance of pipes freezing and busting so it water tight containers are in my future. Oh and stocking up on ammo cuz if the world starts to end in December I need to be sure I can fight off the zombie hordes after my snuff supply. 8-X

In Montana you just have to worry about when Yellowstone erupts & wipes all surrounding states clean of vegetation. And the ash in the atmosphere blocks the sun causing another ice age which covers the northern states in glaciers again. I think I’ve got enough stock to supply a family of 10 with tobacco well into the 22nd century. And with tobacco now growing wild around the property & a lot of seed in storage, theres no cause for concern. With hunting, fishing & growing a garden, I’ve been living pretty self sufficient for a number of years now. So I’m ready.

I find tobacco free snuffs (Mohlens herbal and the white ones) to be reasonably good, so I would probably switch to those if ‘snuffageddon’ comes. (I won’t post any opinions on the EU and ‘all its works’, as I’d probably just get banned). ‘Pipageddon’ is a different matter. Honeyrose make a herbal mixture which is just about ok (it has a latakia type flavour to it) but the room note is vile. I’ve never found an acceptable herbal substitute for pipe tobacco, though I’m convinced there must be one.

Hmmmm…Somehow @MrSnuff, I am not at all surprised!

After reading this thread I decided to place my Christmas order a little early!!

Good thinking @furious… 21st of December is just around the corner you know!

It’s been on my mind, I got no problem going thru withdrawals tho, I kinda like them.

On a laptop in your town We assembled some snuffer’s From all over the world To bring you this message From Snuff makers. All over the world It’s the real thing - Snuffagetsome. And they sang… I’d like to buy the world a snuffhouse And furnish it with snuff Sniff HDT and honey bee And D White Snafu Grunt. I’d like to teach the world to snuff In perfect harmony I’d like to buy the world some snuff And keep it company That’s the real thing. Snuffagetsome.

Sounds like shaman is already starting to show symptoms of withdrawal.

@Xander -Yea ,I have to snuff to Snuff villiage where Papa Snuff can snuff me up a snuff for my snuff

I’ve heard the EU smokeless tobacco directive has recently been ratified, but can’t seem to find any clear info on what it involves and if it includes snuff. Does anybody have a reliable link?

@AustinAllegro, the EU tobacco directive has NOT been ratified or even released yet. It is still being written, or at least being written to it’s final form. Don’t panic yet.

I have lots and lots of snuff in boxes lying around, every tin is in a vacuum bag and kept in a cool and dark place.

Yes …

@Stogie Y yes , Yes I am .

Well, it’s been a bit over 10 years since I started this thread. It seems to have wandered all over for awhile and then quietly went to sleep. I am soon taking a vacation to a place I like to visit in Mexico. I usually thrive on being able to soak in the sunshine while feeling the ocean breeze on my face while sipping on some excellent Raita with a lovely bit of snuff in the nose and an excellent cigar or pipe in my lips. I just found out that tobacco - yes tobacco use is now banned in all hotels, resorts, sidewalks, parks and beaches. This apparently makes it the most repressive tobacco law in the WORLD. A thing they are openly proud of.

I know, yes, I can still get by with my snuff as I have no idea how they would regulate it. The wind, sun and sound of the waves will be magical. The Raita warming. The food satisfying. The whole business very relaxing. BUT I will dearly miss my cigars and pipes. (Alligator tears here).

So, I am forced to state again. In the case of a snuff apocalypse, are You ready?

I am. By my estimation I currently have about 24# of snuff, just under 2,500 cigars, 159 tins plus 24# loose pipe tobacco as well as dukka, hooka etc. Etc.

There are some wonderful selections from a number of reputable, creative people, sold by awesome folks… For now. But the number of people creating, manufacturing and selling our particular vice is dwindling. The variety is shrinking and the regulations, taxes and shipping costs spiraling upward.

I am not trying to stimulate trolls or nut jobs. There is/can be a light side to this (see some of the replies from 10 years ago), but there is also the somewhat darker side represented by the new law in Mexico. Who knows what will happen. I tend to choose the light side, perhaps it’s due to my rose colored glasses.

I am prepared, are you?

@stogie, this is a great reminder to stack deep! I’ve got to work on that as I’ve only got perhaps three or four kilos of snuff in hand and honestly that’s not much. It’s all got to come by mail as there’s no local source here.

We’re also fighting a “flavored” tobacco ban in my state, which will dry up the local supply of General snus I’m afraid.

There is a world of unknown possibilities out there. All we can do is be the best people we can be and try to be as prepared for as many possibilities as possible. Smile and enjoy the fragrance of the day…

I have a hundred and fifty or so tins that I haven’t finished and a couple of dozen I have yet to try. I should have enough to make it through a nuclear winter. That, of course, does not mean I am not getting more.

Oh, how many blends of the past do I wish I had stocked up on before they disappeared or became unavailable. I think back, say 20 years, and at that time I thought things were bad with ever-increasing regulations and shrinking manufacturer (including artisan) portfolios. Now I see those days as golden years.

Unfortunately, the same situation holds true each and every year: fine tobacco products will never be more plentiful or cheap than they are today. As the pipe guys say, “buy it cheap and stack it deep.”

I’m always stocking deep. Tobacco controllers could strike at any moment with a policy change by the FDA.

Mr Snuff please send 10% to the big guy.

Just got 10 tins of Sir Walter Scott’s and 3 of SNUV White, I should be good for a couple of weeks.

So … just returned from a trip to Mexico where they have the new draconian tobacco laws. This was the first time I didn’t take any cigars or pipes. Probably a good thing as my bags were searched both coming and going. I was questioned about whether I had tobacco in my possession. I said no even though I did have some snuff. I have no idea what the ‘penalty or fine’ might be. Not a big fan of the direction things are heading.

My favorite cigar shop and the local cigar factory both now closed and selling locally grown and roasted coffee as well as chocolate. Good products but I miss the old establishments.