anyone know if/where i can get any air-cured rustica?
I havent seen any specifically air cured , i am looking to buy some off http://www.salvialight.com/nicotiana-rustica.htm , after the new year
http://www.kalyx.com/shopexd.asp?id=1209936 http://www.kalyx.com/shopexd.asp?id=1219157 Basement shaman sent me these links a while ago.
Rustica has been known as poor mans tobacco. It is harsh and has excessive unwanted alkaloids. It is almost always inexpensively air cured. It has found it’s way into cheap snus and shisha. It’s a novelty really as its historical use by shamans has attracted the attention of quite a few. Care should be taken with its use due to the MAOI levels which can cause panic attacks as well as effect those taking prescription antidepressants… IMHO
Rustica has been known as poor mans tobacco. It is harsh and has excessive unwanted alkaloids. It is almost always inexpensively air cured. It has found it’s way into cheap snus and shisha. It’s a novelty really as its historical use by shamans has attracted the attention of quite a few. Care should be taken with its use due to the MAOI levels which can cause panic attacks as well as effect those taking prescription antidepressants… IMHO
ah really, thanks for letting me know. what is a strong tobacco next after rustica?
I don’t mean to discourage the use of Rustica which has huge potential, especially for snuff. Its strength makes alkalizers unnecessary and the MAOI’s hold promising self medication secrets. Burley tobacco is strong and much easier to work with and also easier to source. Look up whole leaf tobacco. Amazon.com even has a guy that sells some.
thanks Juxtaposer… i will look into getting some Burley 
It is a serious plant and needs to be treated with such , it is a nightshade after all. I ONLY us it in blends never on its own, its not to tasty.
I like to use the Mapacho (Salvialight) Rustica for snuff, nice looking leaf all rolled up. The cure is real nice and it has a good flavor, only bad thing is a pronounced drip from all Rustica. I miss the Thuc Lao, that is real interesting stuff.
Whalen- In case you weren’t aware, there are still places to get Thuoc Lao. But the prices aren’t as good as Toque’s was. Also one place has the traditional bamboo water pipe used with it. If you’re interested I can try to find the business.
I think I will use Quit for some experiments. The Thuoc Lao I want to try smoking though.
I can second that - Quit is in most of my personal, home use blends. I don’t know why but I have drifted into never using my bought snuffs straight up, I always blend. At the minute it’s Navy Sweet with Quit and a couple of WoS snuffs; SP and Sherry. Quit gives it a nice kick.
If anybody wants air-cured rustica please PM me.I
The other thing to think about is our Quit. It is a stemless natural high nicotine snuff that a lot of amateur snuff makers/blenders use as their base flour.
hi Roderick, is it air-cured? and low in TSNAs?
thanks Roderick! how do you go about testing for TSNA levels then?
ok hehe
Rustica has been known as poor mans tobacco. It is harsh and has excessive unwanted alkaloids. It is almost always inexpensively air cured. It has found it’s way into cheap snus and shisha. It’s a novelty really as its historical use by shamans has attracted the attention of quite a few. Care should be taken with its use due to the MAOI levels which can cause panic attacks as well as effect those taking prescription antidepressants… IMHO
Should all of this be in quotes, I’ve read all of this on other sites and information resources, lots of anecdotal evidence. I would say if you can find a source have at it 
I just googled what you quoted me saying and got this as the next result down from the quote of your quote of what I said. ftp://inethub.olvi.net.ua/Library/share/Agriculture/Cultures/Tobacco%20in%20History%20and%20Culture/Tobacco%20in%20History%20and%20Culture%20-%20Vol.2%20Native%20Americans%20Zimbabwe.pdf @smokinjoescbr I think “poor mans tobacco” should be in quotes now that you mention it. This quote really applies to the use of Rustica as smoking tobacco but it does infer to the ease of which this type grows and the prolific nature of its seeding. By the way I personally have had panic attacks as a result of a pure Rustica snuff. Anecdotal evidence? Yes, I agree.
Wow! that article is a wealth of information, I’ll have to take some time and browse through it tonight. Panic attacks from pure rustica… I will have to be careful when I get a chance to sample some.
Certainly worth sampling. Those who are sensitive or have a predisposition for panic attacks would be most at risk. Those taking prescription MAOI’s would be advised to avoid. Those taking Abraxis are already exposed, albeit Nigel says he does not use alkalizers so the harmine and harmaline absorption levels aren’t going to be as wicked. Anyone not having such sensitivity is sure to enjoy the alkaloids in Rustica.