Preservative for snuff

Johano the snuff becomes spoil after few days. Thats a problem with me

@Amjaf, I don’t use a phone. Feel free to post here (or PM).

We cannot understand what exactly do you mean by “spoiled”? Plain naswar always stinks, fresh it reeks of ammonia. It’s OK! I would be very disappointed if my naswar or chemma reached me ammonia-free. You can scent it with essential oil, if scented naswar is a thing in your region.

Rustica tobacco doesn’t change the colour that easy. Oral naswar, even that of the so-called “black” kind, is far from being even dark. It’s khaki (greenish-brown). If your naswar turned black, something is wrong either with the ingredients (or proportion), or with the process (or both), but believe me, you do not need preservatives for this tobacco product, when the tek is right. If you have wrong recipe, use bad ingredients or run the process in a wrong way, preservatives won’t do any wonder!

Adding alkalis to regular tobacco (Nicotiana tabacum) turns it dark or even close to black. The smell also changes dramatically. If you use Nicotiana rustica, darkening doesn’t happen.

Also, you need to use slaked lime.

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Besides Maghrebian chemma, another nice example of preservatives-free Nicotiana rustica oral product is Turkish naswai - Marash otu. Composition is very simple: Nicotiana rustica, oak ash (1:1) and water. Moisture content - around 50%.

https://snuffhouse.com/discussion:/7773/marasotu-snus-n-rustica

https://www.google.lt/search?q=maras+otu&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjpyPvht\_jsAhXRAXcKHQYrBDYQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=maras+otu&gs\_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzIECAAQEzIGCAAQHhATOgYIABAHEB5QvRxYyx9gtSNoAHAAeACAAZ4DiAGrBJIBBzAuMS40LTGYAQCgAQGqAQtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZ8ABAQ&sclient=img&ei=\_MSqX-naAtGD3AOG1pCwAw&bih=578&biw=1252

Impossible to fail. You don’t need preservatives.

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I try to post picture of my naswar but not loading

Its fresh naswar

Spoil means snuff smell and color change

I think its bacteria which spoil the naswar

What about salt (sodium chloride)? Dont see it in your list of ingredients and salt is an essential ingredient. It moderates and slows fermentation and also acts as a preservative.

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@Amjaf, you can upload pictures on https://imgbb.com/ and post the link here. It seems that uploading pictures directly to the message board doesn’t work.

You are probably using insufficient amount of alkalis. Try this formula (all ingredients by weight):

Tobacco 38%
Water 38%
Ash 15%
Lime 5%
Guar gum 4%

I’m not sure if the amount of guar gum is right, but this ingredient is unknown to me. Make three small test batches following my suggested formula with reduced guar content (4%, 3%, 2%; indicated by weight).

What tobacco are you using for this product?

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Sir we use number one tobacco of pakistan. Which is from kpk of pkaistan

n9inchnails we use salt but it does not work. Salt create a problem because of it water comes out of snuff

See the spoil naswar https://ibb.co/LkYYmcy

See the fresh one https://ibb.co/5MJdg51

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https://ibb.co/jkSFfkJ it fresh

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https://ibb.co/yprjFMD https://ibb.co/kcHF2f7 https://ibb.co/RC3ys95 It is fresh naswar

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After few days naswar spoil see https://ibb.co/41gGXbF https://ibb.co/FhRbGxg https://ibb.co/6YbXMVK

I’m far from being an expert, but I would say that colour is ok. Those white flakes look like sklaked lime or alkaline salts from ash (probably both). If it’s actually mold, I would suspect that it’s guar gum to blame. Maybe it’s contaminated, or simply makes a good medium for fungi (mold) growth. Tobacco alone, mixed in right proportions with strong alkalis (slaked lime and ashes) and water, should not be susceptible to mold, when pH is 10 or higher (up to 11).

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White flakes is paper, it is not mold. I wrote the date of munufacter of snuff on paper in place in snuff for checking that how many days snuff remain fresh. Thats paper

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Volunge how to check the PH?

Most affordable and the easiest way to check the pH level is to use litmus papers for base test.

Use those covering full base range from pH 7 to 14. Check your local suppliers. Litmus papers are relatively cheap.

You need to dissolve 1 gram of product in 10 millilitres of distilled water and inser litmus paper at least two times - after one minute and after ten minutes. Calculate the average then.

Or you can use digital pH meter in the same manner for more accurate measuring, but these devices are pricey. The cheapest ones which are sold for 10 euros are not suitable, they are very unreliable.

Measuring the pH is easy.

But in all fairness, best indicator is the lip and gums of naswar user. If you use good quality naswar yourself, you will feel if pH is too high. Too high pH is PAINFUL. The pain continues even after removing naswar from your lip. Your mucous “peels off”, too… Using too alkaline naswar, you litterally end up with a chemical burn and an open wound (raw flesh) in your lip/gums.

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