Preservative for snuff

Are you sure you are using right tobacco, @Amjaf? Nicotiana tabacum varieties are not suitable for naswar, like the one if this photo (Shaheen). https://ibb.co/sVpBLXq You need to use Nicotiana rustica!

Please upload a photo of your product.

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Thatshychef we use propylene glycol but it not works. The result is same

@Amjaf what exactly is the result? You wrote that it goes bad after few days, but its not possible. It is the fermentation process that makes snuff smell different and it gets darker. Its usually a good sign. But I have no idea how oral snuff is supposed to be made.

Johano the snuff becomes spoil after few days. Thats a problem with me

@Amjaf, I don’t use a phone. Feel free to post here (or PM).

We cannot understand what exactly do you mean by “spoiled”? Plain naswar always stinks, fresh it reeks of ammonia. It’s OK! I would be very disappointed if my naswar or chemma reached me ammonia-free. You can scent it with essential oil, if scented naswar is a thing in your region.

Rustica tobacco doesn’t change the colour that easy. Oral naswar, even that of the so-called “black” kind, is far from being even dark. It’s khaki (greenish-brown). If your naswar turned black, something is wrong either with the ingredients (or proportion), or with the process (or both), but believe me, you do not need preservatives for this tobacco product, when the tek is right. If you have wrong recipe, use bad ingredients or run the process in a wrong way, preservatives won’t do any wonder!

Adding alkalis to regular tobacco (Nicotiana tabacum) turns it dark or even close to black. The smell also changes dramatically. If you use Nicotiana rustica, darkening doesn’t happen.

Also, you need to use slaked lime.

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Besides Maghrebian chemma, another nice example of preservatives-free Nicotiana rustica oral product is Turkish naswai - Marash otu. Composition is very simple: Nicotiana rustica, oak ash (1:1) and water. Moisture content - around 50%.

https://snuffhouse.com/discussion:/7773/marasotu-snus-n-rustica

https://www.google.lt/search?q=maras+otu&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjpyPvht\_jsAhXRAXcKHQYrBDYQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=maras+otu&gs\_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzIECAAQEzIGCAAQHhATOgYIABAHEB5QvRxYyx9gtSNoAHAAeACAAZ4DiAGrBJIBBzAuMS40LTGYAQCgAQGqAQtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZ8ABAQ&sclient=img&ei=\_MSqX-naAtGD3AOG1pCwAw&bih=578&biw=1252

Impossible to fail. You don’t need preservatives.

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I try to post picture of my naswar but not loading

Its fresh naswar

Spoil means snuff smell and color change

I think its bacteria which spoil the naswar

What about salt (sodium chloride)? Dont see it in your list of ingredients and salt is an essential ingredient. It moderates and slows fermentation and also acts as a preservative.

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@Amjaf, you can upload pictures on https://imgbb.com/ and post the link here. It seems that uploading pictures directly to the message board doesn’t work.

You are probably using insufficient amount of alkalis. Try this formula (all ingredients by weight):

Tobacco 38%
Water 38%
Ash 15%
Lime 5%
Guar gum 4%

I’m not sure if the amount of guar gum is right, but this ingredient is unknown to me. Make three small test batches following my suggested formula with reduced guar content (4%, 3%, 2%; indicated by weight).

What tobacco are you using for this product?

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Sir we use number one tobacco of pakistan. Which is from kpk of pkaistan

n9inchnails we use salt but it does not work. Salt create a problem because of it water comes out of snuff

See the spoil naswar https://ibb.co/LkYYmcy

See the fresh one https://ibb.co/5MJdg51

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https://ibb.co/jkSFfkJ it fresh

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https://ibb.co/yprjFMD https://ibb.co/kcHF2f7 https://ibb.co/RC3ys95 It is fresh naswar

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After few days naswar spoil see https://ibb.co/41gGXbF https://ibb.co/FhRbGxg https://ibb.co/6YbXMVK