@PieterC, i dont think so but if she did she has a sense of humor as well so it would be alright we’ve been together for three years so it would take something more than that to really piss her off lol… id post a pick but i dont seem to understand how. Edit: and by the way tom awesome hobby i too grow many flowers (and vegetables but thats my moneymaker) havnt really got into orchids yet but ive always wanted too.