Here are a few threads: http://snuffhouse.org/discussion/comment/137838#Comment\_137838 http://snuffhouse.org/discussion/283/f-tranter-s-irish-d-h-toast http://snuffhouse.org/discussion/comment/67570#Comment\_67570 And you might want to dig through the postings of @PhilipS http://snuffhouse.org/profile/comments/1055/PhilipS