PACT , the FDA and Poschl

So how is this age verification going to work through some sites? Please don’t tell me you’re gonna make it be 21-or-older, like some cigar sites out there…as I’m only 20. I don’t understand why some sites do that, the legal age (at least here) is 18 after all…

It’s not elaborate at all. And, IMHO, it’s no excuse to quadruple the shipping cost.

I still like the “plain brown wrapper” idea. Label it as instant tea or something. The bulk Toques would be easy to label as instant tea, because they are in baggies, and it really does look like instant tea.

Excuse me while I calmly rap my tin and have a pinch as the hatchet falls…

Getsnus had age verification software since I’ve been shopping with them, that’s almost 2 years now. So its nothing new. Also, I can’t see Pöschl realistically pulling out of the US market. They already have the largest market share here. Something will work itself out. Something is not making much sense with all of this.

Well, the fact that Poschls US distributor sent their entire stock back to Germany is a grim sign. Perhaps sales were not what we thought they were.

I also just noticed that Poschl no longer list Packards Club, Ozona Orange, and Ozona Spearmint for their offerings. This is of course on the non-Germany site.

You know what is really strange and should make everyone feel really confused. When I checked it out my shipping cost went down a lot ups. Which just makes it even more of a conundrum.

I’m confused, because some places I read that private carriers will deliver tobacco, and other places I’m reading they won’t.

May I ask which Poschl products are/were USA-only?

Getsnus uses UPS so you have to sign on receipt. This is actually not that bad except A.) It costs more, and B.) You have to be home the day it gets delivered. The FDA loves to mettle in everyones business, they even tried to get electronic cigarettes banned, which is a big slap in the face to any ex-smoker. The FDA is fundamentally Marxist after all. Ozona/Poschl is actually what got me started on snuff, but i dont care for it nearly as much as the Toque ive tried. Props to you, Roderick, for going through the annoying process, best of success. I for one will pay the extra bit for shipping to keep getting snuff from you: I love it :slight_smile: It would really suck if the FDA keeps trying to over regulate and make cigarettes and dip by BIG TOBACCO corps. the only US option. Im so happy to be free of cigarettes choosing ecigs, snus and snuff instead, it just boggles me that the FDA tries to thwart healthier options for people like me, a US military Veteran at that.

The FDA is not fundamentally Marxist.

It’s Stalinist.

Clueless and a bit corrupt are the descriptors I’d use.

So Stalinist it is then lol Stefan

As a historian, I have to agree on Stalinist…it is so very sad that this is not even a joke from me.

So I guess it’s Stalinist/Marxist/Socialist that we have the ingredients listed on food packages. And I guess that it’s also Stalinist/Marxist/Socialist that we don’t allow lead in a childs toy.

The commies are the ones who put lead into capitalist children’s toys, haha. Well, the ingredient lists are half-assed…WTF is “natural flavors?” Either put your entire secret formula on there (which I think is pretty anti-capitalistic to require companies to give away their formulas), or leave it up to the companies to put whatever they feel like on there or omit, as long as it is truthful (sounds pretty capitalistic to me).

No, the “commies” didn’t do it, the American corporations that make the toys did it. Natural Flavors is equal to “Proprietary”. I wouldn’t expect for Roderick to say what his “Natural Flavors” are the same way I don’t expect for Sprite to list their exact formula. There is a level of proprietary information, which… is very Capitalistic. Simply telling companies that they can put it on there or not is silly. How many companies would tell you that there is 2,000mg of sodium per serving?

Well, if we did not have anti-capitalistic child labor laws, we could give four year old American children jobs instead of those commies. ;p Haha, so you agree with my satire?