I have had this Dutch ryo for a good bit collecting dust and some american spirit. Into my bur grinder it went a small piece of cinnamon bark some rooster menthol plus and honey bee…45 Seconds later I am enjiying a custom bkend that it light easy to take, nice throat drip nd is kightly scented. BYT packs a mean nic wallop. so if pact scews me to badly and I have to resorting to diy then I will just be able to get my fix the old fashioned way with some good ole american git r dun.